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09-28-2019, 09:24 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' International
Washington
, Washington, D.C.
Join Date: Oct 2014
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dznf0g - I wonder if the variability in how well the 303 works depends on how it is applied?
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09-28-2019, 09:37 AM
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#22
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,430
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ArmorAll?
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09-28-2019, 09:37 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 16' Sport
N/A
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Join Date: Nov 2017
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Silicone will not attract dust n’ dirt, that’s important for a good seal.
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09-28-2019, 09:55 AM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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We've been doing this a long time. The only real fix is to drill a 1/4 inch hole in the bottom of the screen surround. Then use a 1/4 inch wooden dowel to push the window open at the bottom. This is the only thing that we have found that works in the long run.
Brian
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09-28-2019, 10:35 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream - Other
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Bosque Farms
, New Mexico
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Silicone grease (aka silicone paste) is great stuff. You can buy a couple of different brands of it on Amazon. Go for price. It is not inexpensive stuff.
Be a little careful. Silicone can cause some types of rubber to swell. Not a lot, but enough to make it somewhat different. (Old British sports cars -- my main connection to silicone -- often use silicone brake/clutch fluid, but if used on newer or some replacement rubber, it causes the rubber inside the cylinders to swell up and leak.)
Lynn
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09-28-2019, 11:37 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 19' Bambi
2012 23' Flying Cloud
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Bandera
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 786
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No lubricant....we installed Window Poppers from www.seeyadowntheroad.com.
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09-28-2019, 12:21 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2017 30' Classic
Cave Creek
, Arizona
Join Date: Aug 2016
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Tried the aero 303 for years and they still stuck. Got the window poppers a year ago. Never looked back - huge improvement
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2017 Classic
2017 F-250
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09-28-2019, 12:28 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 25' Globetrotter
Santa Rosa
, California
Join Date: Feb 2017
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I’ve had mixed results with 303 protectant. The best thing that I’ve found for keeping the window seals from sticking for extended periods is Gummi Pflege, a German product used for rubber automotive seals. It’s a water based non-solvent formula that protects and conditions the rubber and doesn’t leave a residue that attracts dirt like silicone can. I still have a tube that I purchased direct from BMW years ago but it’s now available from several sources and manufactured under the name Nextzett Gummi Pflege. It comes with a foam applicator attached and you simply run it over the seals. Easy to use and no mess.
I’m sure the window poppers work great too but the thing is that the seals really should be treated routinely to protect them anyway so having something that serves both purposes is a plus.
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2020 25' Globetrotter Twin | 2024 GMC Sierra 2500HD Denali Ult. 4x4 Duramax
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09-28-2019, 12:55 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2012 28' International
bridgeport
, New York
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 6
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What I have found after three Airstreams is that any lubricant is either messy or doesn’t work very long. I use a small dent puller, about 3 inches in diameter. Place it on glass , lock the handle and pull the window open.
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09-28-2019, 12:58 PM
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Overland Adventurer
1991 34' Excella
2009 34' Panamerica
Telluride
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,476
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El cheapo plumbers grease works best.
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09-28-2019, 01:17 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Washington
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,589
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I use 100% silicon oil.
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09-28-2019, 02:58 PM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,684
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Hi
I've tried various cleaners as well as a couple versions of the 303 "stuff". I'm still not real convinced any of it is any better than the others. Windows stick after a week or so, no matter what I use.
Bob
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09-28-2019, 05:12 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Window seal lubricant idea—has anyone tried this?
Weird recent experience. Airstream has been baking in the full Southern California sun for the past 6 years. Went to install my window popper thingies just before the last trip, expecting the windows to be stuck. Wonder of wonders, they opened just fine anyway.
Didn’t need to pry them open or anything. Maybe the seals settle down after a few years? Maybe a good coating of fine dust.
I’ll still install the window poppers to make it easier to bounce the windows open after I unlatch them, but I’m not having real sticking issues...
I did have one Fantastic Fan lid get stuck shut, but removing the screen and a gentle push with a long screwdriver got it opening normally again. It’s usually shut, but this issue showed up after a couple days on the road in high humidity. Not making a lot of sense.
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
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2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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09-28-2019, 07:34 PM
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2020 Classic 33
Box Elder
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Join Date: Oct 2013
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Triple dittos for Window poppers. Single one for most windows and two for the front/rear windows and problem solved.
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2020 Classic 33 Twin, 2019 Ram 3500 Longhorn, ProPride
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09-29-2019, 02:16 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' International
Washington
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Join Date: Oct 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum
Weird recent experience. Airstream has been baking in the full Southern California sun for the past 6 years. Went to install my window popper thingies just before the last trip, expecting the windows to be stuck. Wonder of wonders, they opened just fine anyway.
Didn’t need to pry them open or anything. Maybe the seals settle down after a few years? Maybe a good coating of fine dust.
I’ll still install the window poppers to make it easier to bounce the windows open after I unlatch them, but I’m not having real sticking issues...
I did have one Fantastic Fan lid get stuck shut, but removing the screen and a gentle push with a long screwdriver got it opening normally again. It’s usually shut, but this issue showed up after a couple days on the road in high humidity. Not making a lot of sense.
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I think the reason they didn’t stick anymore is your window seals are dried out.
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09-29-2019, 03:05 AM
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Owners of Willie
2019 27' Globetrotter
Peoria
, Illinois
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 270
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Window seal lubricant idea—has anyone tried this?
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Originally Posted by OTRA15
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I’ve used 303 several times and it doesn’t help me much.
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09-29-2019, 03:06 AM
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Owners of Willie
2019 27' Globetrotter
Peoria
, Illinois
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 270
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle_bob
Hi
I've tried various cleaners as well as a couple versions of the 303 "stuff". I'm still not real convinced any of it is any better than the others. Windows stick after a week or so, no matter what I use.
Bob
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Mine too.
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09-29-2019, 09:09 AM
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1 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
eagle river
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 7
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windows sticking
Good old Armor all works for me , as well as cleaning them with a glass cleaner with no alcohol ..
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10-03-2019, 07:47 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1976 25' Tradewind
Currently Looking...
Flushing
, Michigan
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 171
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Thanks for all of the ideas. I now have some new things to try!
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10-03-2019, 07:59 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A W Warn
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That checked all the boxes for me.
Visiting Lowe's today.
Thanks.
BTW, Last week, I tried opening several windows. One was easy, needs adjustment in, the rest were stuck. None seemed adjusted properly.
Bone tool on the way tomorrow!
I purchased six of the chrome window knobs, and when I went to install them (one setscrew). I hit the "You didn't expect it to be that easy, did you?" factor. The new setscrews are a different size than the old, you can't get to them without opening the windows, yada, yada!
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