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Old 04-25-2014, 09:03 PM   #29
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Another option is to buy Yamaha 2300 IS which can run 13500 A/C. This unit is little larger than 2000 units however you don't have to pair them to run the A/C. Good luck
Its the 2400iShc not 2300. Its only rated at 2000watts and many people online reported that it was a hit and miss when it came to powering a 13500 AC. Some said it did fine while others stated that it would trip. I was not confident about it so I passed and didn't make my final three list..
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Old 04-25-2014, 09:06 PM   #30
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On the sidebar DB discussions, as to how loud two honda's are vs one, are I have no clue and have nothing to add. I think I answered everyones questions. Mommy if you have any other questions, please ask.
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Yeah, the Champion is 58 DB at 23 feet. Yami is 60 DB but I could not find any literature as to how far away that was measured. The Honda the same says 65 and 57 full and 1/4 power but no mention as to how far away the measurements were taken.
The honda is measured at 9 ft. By using published noise to distance charts, that adds another 9 db to the champion when measured at the Honda distance. I have been around both and there is a significant difference between the two.

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Yeah, the Champion is 58 DB at 23 feet. Yami is 60 DB but I could not find any literature as to how far away that was measured. The Honda the same says 65 and 57 full and 1/4 power but no mention as to how far away the measurements were taken.
I don't know about the measurements, but I'd wager that each manufacturer takes care to make theirs differently than the others so it's harder to compare.

My experience is that the Yamaha 3k is quieter than the 3k Honda. It may be that the tone is less intrusive and it actually measures the same or higher, but 5' from my generator and 15' from a Honda eu3000iS, I hear the Honda more. My unit does several boondocking events a year, 2 of us have the Yamaha, 3 others have the eu3000iS, one has a Handi, and there are couple of 2000s of various brands including the Champion 2ks they used to sell at Costco. That quiet hum keeps me very happy with my EF3000iSEB. I bought mine used from a friend who just HAD to have the 6500 and has worked perfectly for 2 years so far.
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The honda is measured at 9 ft. By using published noise to distance charts, that adds another 9 db to the champion when measured at the Honda distance. I have been around both and there is a significant difference between the two.

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I searched high and low for Honda and Yami Measurement numbers and could find anything. Can you share the reference?
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Old 04-26-2014, 01:22 AM   #34
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I have a Honda EU3000iS and love it. We live in New Orleans and not having A/C is not an option. This thing runs great, quite, and sips gas. I have the wheel kit for it, and just roll it around. Get someone to help get it in the back of the truck though. About $2000, but you get what you pay for.
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Either the Honda 1000 or 2000 will give you good, reliable and quiet service. You should plan on using propane for heating, cooking and making coffee to use the smaller generator.

I agree with those who spend the extra bucks for products with a long reputation of reliable service. When I haven't I often end up scrapping the bargain and then buying the known brand as well. We have moved to the other side of the campground due to the noise levels of inexpensive Chinese generators. Perhaps they have improved but I would surely try one before I bought it.
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Seems like a few in Honda and Yami crowd have had their feathers ruffled. True that Honda and Yamaha both offer a 3 year Warranty, Champion offers a two year. Surely if your in the market for a quite, efficient, capable, quality product your not going to dismiss this option especially at this price point? I can buy three of these guys for price of one Handi and still have money left over for beer. Your going to argue with that logic?
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An advantage to Yamahas are that the off switch cuts off the gas and you can run the carb dry. Not so on a Honda (you have to run the whole tank dry). Saves headaches and gummed up carbs.
Doesn't the yamahas have carburetor drain screws like the Honda's?
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Wow, no shortage of opinions here.
I live in Montana and I purchased the Honda also after some extensive research.
One negative for me is availability of service (if needed) for the other brands. I live in a very remote area and I still have a Honda and Yamaha Dealer within 60 miles of me in Billings. The Honda 3K fits me needs and in spite of the price..... I still have beer money........
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Doesn't the yamahas have carburetor drain screws like the Honda's?
No like the Champion, Yamaha's have a Shutoff Valve for the fuel, so you can run them dry for storage and have no fuel left in the bowl.
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No like the Champion, Yamaha's have a Shutoff Valve for the fuel, so you can run them dry for storage and have no fuel left in the bowl.
The float bowl doesn't get all the gas removed that way. I checked it.
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Wow, no shortage of opinions here.
Opinions and information are the only things that are free these days. I am all about getting as much info out there and allowing one to make a smart choice before the money that is so hard to earn these days is gone. Hopefully someone in the Market for a generator will read this thread and realize that other options are available then the red and blue machine. I'lll bet you will see more of the yellow machines at your local camp sites as the word gets out.
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The float bowl doesn't get all the gas removed that way. I checked it.
Thats absolutely correct and both Yamaha and Champion still recommend draining the bowl for winter/long term storage. It does however remove the majority of the fuel and decrease the likely hood of it gumming up if you will. Built a few carb's on my motorcycle and boat and thats no fun.
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