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02-20-2019, 11:51 AM
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#41
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2 Rivet Member
2015 Interstate Ext. Coach
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 90
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I've been RVing over 50 years and have never heard of such a thing. shrouds, yes.
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02-20-2019, 11:59 AM
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#42
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Rivet Master
2018 30' Classic
Jacksonville
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Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 725
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1. Cover the hole to prevent further damage to the unit. Prevent water intrusion into unit.
2. Call the dealer. Foley is a good call.
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02-20-2019, 12:12 PM
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#43
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4 Rivet Member
2018 22' Sport
Blue Sky Ranch
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 341
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanB
You just can't make this kind of stuff up ...
We have a 2018 Basecamp. We've already put about 15k miles on it. But we were driving thru GA yesterday and were caught in a rainstorm with heavy winds. When we stopped for the night I noticed a lot of light coming thru the AC unit ... went outside to examine and ... well... its simply gone???
I genuinely have no idea exactly where and when but, I'd guess it's sitting on the side of the hwy somewhere. I just hope it didn't hit anyone when it flew off.
Anyway, any advice on what to do? I bought all the warranties and extra service packages so I know it's covered (or I hope it is ... ) but, I'm in Jackson Mississippi, headed to Shreeveport LA. Im assuming I need to find a registered Airstream service center ...
This is my first trailer and first significant problem.
Thanks for any advice !!
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Please call the AS Mothership and let them know directly. Don’t expect a dealer to do this. The factory needs to hear from you directly. This is an obvious warranty issue but more so, it is the lack of good quality control. We pay too much for the AS name and mystique to have to live with sub-par assembly.
Good luck with the replacement.
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02-21-2019, 04:46 AM
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#44
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2 Rivet Member
1976 Argosy 28
Warrenton
, Virginia
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 45
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missing AC
Here's my $.02..... the attaching bolts are still in place, highly unlikely that it was theft as thieves don't go through the trouble and time it would take to screw them back in, and they likely would take the screws with them to use or sell with the unit.
Very little damage to the top of the unit so it didn't flop about before it ejected itself.
Very likely that the washers were omitted during the install and it just lifted off the top and scared the beejeebers out of whomever was following you.
Hope all turned out well...it sounds like AS is on it and a new AC should be at the dealer of your choice.
I'm sure that AS will have a talk with the offending installer and make it all good for you....this is why you buy an AS over some of the other brands.
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02-21-2019, 01:32 PM
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#45
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Corrales
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This is not as uncommon as you think. We purchased a new Fleetwood Expedition in 2007. We put 8K miles on it, never in the rain. We hit a huge rainstorm and water started pouring in around the front a/c unit. When I could finally get it under cover I discovered there were the bolts holding it but no washers or nuts to be found. With the unlimited number of other issues that we had with this coach, I chalked it up to shoddy workmanship. About a year later I ran to a former Fleetwood field tech of 18+ years. He said he had seen some a/c units actually fly off the roof because someone had forgot to finish the bolts. It is my understanding that Thor now owns AS. I owned a Thor motor coach as well. It was worse than the Fleetwood. So bad in fact that when my warranty was up the factory told me never to call again. Hopefully, Thors' poor quality control hasn't seeped into the AS culture.
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02-21-2019, 02:11 PM
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#46
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Baton Rouge Riveter
1972 27' Overlander
Baton Rouge
, Louisiana
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanB
You just can't make this kind of stuff up ...
We have a 2018 Basecamp. We've already put about 15k miles on it. But we were driving thru GA yesterday and were caught in a rainstorm with heavy winds. When we stopped for the night I noticed a lot of light coming thru the AC unit ... went outside to examine and ... well... its simply gone???
I genuinely have no idea exactly where and when but, I'd guess it's sitting on the side of the hwy somewhere. I just hope it didn't hit anyone when it flew off.
Anyway, any advice on what to do? I bought all the warranties and extra service packages so I know it's covered (or I hope it is ... ) but, I'm in Jackson Mississippi, headed to Shreeveport LA. Im assuming I need to find a registered Airstream service center ...
This is my first trailer and first significant problem.
Thanks for any advice !!
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The RV shop in Baton Rouge is an Airstream dealership.
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02-21-2019, 05:09 PM
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#47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by captainkirk
Very likely that the washers were omitted during the install .
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Coleman air conditioners do not come with washers.
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02-21-2019, 08:24 PM
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#48
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2 Rivet Member
2016 27' Flying Cloud
Chicora
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlinCal
Well now that its gone...do you even want an AC in a Basecamp?
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I’m thinking the answer is no.. obviously A/S has yet to master the nut and bolt. Go ahead and keep the money spent on the A/C unit . Who needs A/C.?
A/S should have Qc in place to catch these defecty.,
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02-21-2019, 08:31 PM
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#49
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Rivet Master
1991 25' Excella
2011 19' Flying Cloud
Santa Ynez
, California
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,185
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Totlh
I’m thinking the answer is no.. obviously A/S has yet to master the nut and bolt. Go ahead and keep the money spent on the A/C unit . Who needs A/C.?
A/S should have Qc in place to catch these defecty.,
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Couple things, Airstream does not build the ac unit and associated hardware.
the other is Basecamps arent meant for trailer parks. Getting into the backcountry is not about running an ac unit with a generator.
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02-21-2019, 09:12 PM
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#50
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Rivet Master
2012 Avenue Coach
Corpus Christi
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,719
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Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
Coleman air conditioners do not come with washers.
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Correct.
Having recently installed a new Coleman Mach 8 Plus (which installed exactly like the 6 yr. old Coleman it replaced) the a/c is retained with 4 loooooong screws thru an inside flange and into the roof unit. The gasket must be compressed to approximately 1/2 its thickness in order to seal to the roof. That takes quite a bit of pressure and holds the unit to the roof quite securely if installed correctly.
I have no idea how the OP's basecamp unit came off, unless the threads stripped inside the roof unit. Perhaps over torqued at factory, but they would have had to strip multiple screws as only one might result in a roof leak, but still the unit should not lift off.
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02-21-2019, 09:22 PM
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#51
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Rivet Master
1991 25' Excella
2011 19' Flying Cloud
Santa Ynez
, California
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,185
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rowiebowie
Correct.
Having recently installed a new Coleman Mach 8 Plus (which installed exactly like the 6 yr. old Coleman it replaced) the a/c is retained with 4 loooooong screws thru an inside flange and into the roof unit. The gasket must be compressed to approximately 1/2 its thickness in order to seal to the roof. That takes quite a bit of pressure and holds the unit to the roof quite securely if installed correctly.
I have no idea how the OP's basecamp unit came off, unless the threads stripped inside the roof unit. Perhaps over torqued at factory, but they would have had to strip multiple screws as only one might result in a roof leak, but still the unit should not lift off.
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Exactly this
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02-22-2019, 05:40 AM
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#52
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2 Rivet Member
2016 27' Flying Cloud
Chicora
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlinCal
Couple things, Airstream does not build the ac unit and associated hardware.
the other is Basecamps arent meant for trailer parks. Getting into the backcountry is not about running an ac unit with a generator.
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A/S may not make the A/C unit but they do install it.
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02-22-2019, 09:08 AM
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#53
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1 Rivet Member
2018 Basecamp
Colorado Springs
, CO
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 11
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Do you think I have a case for getting AS to cover the insurance deductible? If it wasn't installed correctly it should be a warranty thing, not an insurance thing ... right??
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02-22-2019, 09:19 AM
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#54
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
I'm In
, Kentucky
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,251
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanB
Do you think I have a case for getting AS to cover the insurance deductible? If it wasn't installed correctly it should be a warranty thing, not an insurance thing ... right??
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Post #21 was Airstream asking you to contact them directly. Have you done this to see what they are willing to do?
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2004 4Runner SE 4.7L V8
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02-22-2019, 10:58 AM
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#55
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lexton2186
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Hopefully, Thors' poor quality control hasn't seeped into the AS culture.
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"QC" search results here:
https://www.google.com/search?q=QC&s...=airforums.com
. . . beaucoup seepage . . .
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02-25-2019, 01:41 PM
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#56
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2 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
2019 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Dallas
, Arkansas
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanB
You just can't make this kind of stuff up ...
We have a 2018 Basecamp. We've already put about 15k miles on it. But we were driving thru GA yesterday and were caught in a rainstorm with heavy winds. When we stopped for the night I noticed a lot of light coming thru the AC unit ... went outside to examine and ... well... its simply gone???
I genuinely have no idea exactly where and when but, I'd guess it's sitting on the side of the hwy somewhere. I just hope it didn't hit anyone when it flew off.
Anyway, any advice on what to do? I bought all the warranties and extra service packages so I know it's covered (or I hope it is ... ) but, I'm in Jackson Mississippi, headed to Shreeveport LA. Im assuming I need to find a registered Airstream service center ...
This is my first trailer and first significant problem.
Thanks for any advice !!
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Again, so easy to believe it just blew off. I’ve owned a 2016, 2017 and last a 2018 Airstream. Nothing surprising to me after all the flaws in manufacturing I’ve dealt with. Thank goodness no one was injured or that you know of. Quality control out to lunch
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02-25-2019, 01:44 PM
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#57
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2 Rivet Member
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2019 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Dallas
, Arkansas
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanB
Lol, nope. It's completely gone. There's a hole in the roof.
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And it’s very easy to believe you on this one.
They rush everything for profit.
It’s sad to see a legend go out over greed!
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02-26-2019, 08:31 AM
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#58
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Corrales
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Go over to irv2 website and look at the threads on the Thor basement issues. Unbelievable how bad the Thor quality is. We bought a new Thor Astoria diesel pusher in 2011. Every time I drove in the rain, everything in the basement would get soaking wet. You could crawl in the basement and see daylight everywhere. They make the worst RV's in the business. No quality control at all. Sorry to see that they purchased Airstream. It was only a matter of time before the quality went down to their level.
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02-26-2019, 10:19 AM
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#59
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Retired.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lexton2186
Sorry to see that they purchased Airstream. It was only a matter of time before the quality went down to their level.
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You need to do a little research before posting things like this.
Thor was created in 1981 specifically to purchase Airstream from Beatrice Foods at that time. All other purchases and acquisitions came later. If they hadn't purchased Airstream, there would be no Airstream.
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02-26-2019, 12:07 PM
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#60
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Rivet Master
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,987
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Thor purchased Airstream on August 29, 1980.
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