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Old 08-16-2011, 02:01 PM   #15
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My '05 Safari 25 (built 04) has OSB
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Old 08-16-2011, 02:07 PM   #16
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Our 2005 Classic 30 definitely has plywood, but I'm not sure that all the different 2005 models did have.Brian.
Same here ....
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Old 08-16-2011, 02:13 PM   #17
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Our 2004 (built 2003?) Classic has plywood flooring.
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Old 08-16-2011, 03:21 PM   #18
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hmmm, on 93

pretty strong on 93 29 classic did not have it-they replaced flooring with standard hardwood flooring and that was 1st ques I asked, as most nailing methods are useless with osb. was the 93 34 footer built in 92? the late model ones, flabbergast me. I thought the osb was abandoned long age. aage, what is your plan? just puttin' together data?
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Old 08-16-2011, 03:33 PM   #19
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My 1990 Excella 34' has OSB. And a portion of the back is dry rotted I might add.
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Old 08-16-2011, 03:52 PM   #20
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If one goes to the Airstream home page, click on the "company tab, and the click on the factory tab on the left side, then tab on "factory part 2", they say right there that the flooring 5/8" T&G or OSB flooring. That's for 2011 I believe. So it seems they are still using OSB!
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Old 08-16-2011, 04:49 PM   #21
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I'm surprised there hasn't been a class action suit against Airstream for continuing to use a material with well documented durability issues. The sub-floor will get wet, so why continue to use OSB (or even plywood for that matter)?
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Old 08-16-2011, 05:00 PM   #22
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Like I said, great if you can keep it dry..
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Old 08-16-2011, 06:48 PM   #23
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I agree, it is hard to believe that after all the effort that goes into hand building these trailers, all the attention to details, all the nice components, that AS would use OSB or anything less than the finest, marine grade plywood available for the floor. The ONLY weak link in the chain. Just think how much time & money & grief could have been saved the last 80 years by just having a better floor.
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Old 08-16-2011, 07:00 PM   #24
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BTW, our 93 was actually built in 92, definately has OSB. The factory Bruce hardwoods in the galley I presume are glued down. They are 5/8" thick & sometimes when it is really hot we can hear the adheasive on the bottom side have a sticky sort of sound when we walk over them. They are beautiful.
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Old 08-16-2011, 07:05 PM   #25
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93 Excella has OSB

My 1993 29' Excella 1000 has OSB thourghout the trailer. Trust me I know, it was rotten at both ends. You can see for yourself here...... http://www.airforums.com/forums/f205...ses-73362.html
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Old 08-16-2011, 07:14 PM   #26
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I agree, it is hard to believe that after all the effort that goes into hand building these trailers, all the attention to details, all the nice components, that AS would use OSB or anything less than the finest, marine grade plywood available for the floor. The ONLY weak link in the chain. Just think how much time & money & grief could have been saved the last 80 years by just having a better floor.

Agree 100%!

Having a wooden floor almost convinced me not to buy our present Airstream (bought used). We did however and generally we are very happy with it. I have tried to make a real point of staying on top of the caulking - checking it as best I can pretty much every time we use the trailer.

I have given some consideration now that we have given one a try to upgrade to a new Airstream - but I would absolutely not be prepared to invest that kind of $$ unless / until AS provide a modern composite flooring system or similar that is impervious to water damage.

It would be very interesting to know Airstream's philosophy in this regard

With the number of complaints, it has to be obviously something to which they have given serious consideration and have made a decision not to move in that direction although some other companies have. Could it be just a cost issue or are there other factors at play?

I believe at one time AS did try some sort of aluminum sandwich floor in Argosies. Were there problems with that?

Even if so, there must be many other options open to them these days with advances in technology.

I'm sure this point was raised at the time we were all asked to provide comments on the forum for AS management.

There may have been some specific response from AS, but if so, i don't recall what it was. Anyone else?


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Old 08-16-2011, 07:27 PM   #27
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I believe at one time AS did try some sort of aluminum sandwich floor in Argosies. Were there problems with that?
I have that design. There were problems - the design is two sheets of aluminum with Styrofoam inbetween. Heavy traffic causes a depression to form down the middle.

This was exaggerated by the Minuet only having frame cross-members every four feet, instead of the typical two foot spacing. My floor stiffened up a lot by adding in some crossmembers.

Many Minuet owners also put a floating floor atop the subfloor to add more rigidity and protection. I have Marmoleum Click in my trailer.

With all of the various leaks that pop up, I'm very happy to have this floor. It makes me really hesitant to spend $40k or so on a more-modern used AS and move to wood. I'd be tempted to pay for a restored vintage trailer with Nyloboard or some other composite plywood equivalent.

Bob Wheeler addressed this question on an episode of the Vintage Airstream Podcast. Apparently the current plywood is one grade short of marine-grade. He also claims that a composite floor is too much money.

This sounds of corporate-profit-talk, given that there are several modern SOBs that sell for a fraction of an AS's cost that have wood-free floors. I really kind of think that AS prefers to limit innovation to flashy things and interior finishes that cost little but allow them to charge more...

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So far, so good! Thanks to you all! Still looking, BTW

All right, now we are up to:

OSB floors in years 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1990, 1992, 1993, 2001, 2002, 2003, and some 2005 models

Three Classics, 1 2004 model and 2 2005 models definitely had plywood, while a 2005 Safari has OSB

So to put it the other way:

Between the years of 1985 and 2005, I am only missing confirmation that 1989, 1991 1994-2000 and some(?) 2004s were using OSB.

I am surprised to hear that some 2005 models has OSB while other had plywood! Was it an option, by any chance?

I am doing this in an effort to see if there was any rhyme or reason in what AS did with this important component of their trailers. When this has run for a while longer, I will put the information into a table format, to make it easier to check what yours might have.

Thanks very much to you who have given me your information so far, much appreciated.

If you haven't posted and you know you have OSB, I'd sure like your data.

Also, if you have a plywood floor and I have that in the list above as being an OSB year, I'd like to know that, too.

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