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Old 12-12-2008, 09:44 PM   #15
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You can look on EBay or try looking up www.pandstrailerservice.com They are one of the top, in airstream restoration and polishing. Thay have a nice 1964 24ft Tradewind on EBay now Item number: 190273301858
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Old 12-12-2008, 09:47 PM   #16
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A 72 Tradewind is actually 25 feet long. I live full time in mine with two Labradors and am very comfortable. More than enough storage for me.
Do you think you could do without 2 or 3 feet?
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Old 12-12-2008, 10:06 PM   #17
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What is the Estimated Price for Full or Partial Restoration?

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How much more is towing for a larger trailer?
I was not prepared for the small difference in fuel economy when towing my Minuet 6.0 Metre (Gross Laden Weight 3,100 pounds) compared to my Overlander International <26' 8"> (Gross Laden Weight, 6,100 pounds). Using the same route and my 1999 GMC K2500 Suburban (7400 VORTEC/4.10 Differentials) during two different summers with each trip covering 800 miles one-way utilizing premium fuel with a maximum highway towing speed of 55 MPH.

The Minuet Combination yielded 11.8 mpg for a total of 1,600 miles
The Overlander Combination yielded 10.4 mpg for the same 1,600 miles

With my Cadillac, the final drive gearing poses such an issue that the towing MPG is the same for both coaches 7.9 MPG. If the car had the more appropriate 3.05 Final Drive there would be some difference.

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Old 12-12-2008, 10:12 PM   #18
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Old 12-12-2008, 10:18 PM   #19
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Do you think you could do without 2 or 3 feet?
I think I could do fine with a Safari (23 feet) or even a Globetrotter, which is 19 feet.
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Old 12-13-2008, 12:38 AM   #20
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Rivet What is the Estimated Price for Full or Partial Restoration

I, too, agree with most everyone else in relation to buying an AS. I own a 1974 31' Sovereign and will admit I did pay a higher price for it than most people would....However, I do not ever plan on selling her. Since she was 'born' in 1974, you know she needs TLC....But, you will find it is a labor of love--hence the saying is true that if you choose to sell, you will never get out of her what you have put in...to me, though, I think the money I paid for her 5 years ago has been well spent, and working on the little dings, ect., is therapeutic!!!
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:42 AM   #21
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Don't even consider restoring an Airstream or other trailer unless you can do your own work impeccably, or have unlimited funds to blow.

The best thing you can do, is to buy the latest model best condition trailer you can afford. Or, a well restored example where someone else has done the work and taken the $$$$$ loss.

The restored example might be good or bad depending on the quality of work. It would probably be better to pass on that, and buy the best original example you can. Unless you can have the restored model inspected by an expert.

For tow vehicles it varies. The benchmark, or yardstick of tow vehicles is the Chev Suburban. 1/2 ton for the smaller trailers, 3/4 ton for the big jobs, say 30 feet or more.

There are other suitable vehicles but the most popular choice is some type of heavy duty pickup truck or SUV.

I hope I have not offended anyone but this is straight talk.
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Old 12-14-2008, 09:25 AM   #22
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I hope I have not offended anyone but this is straight talk.
I appreciate your honesty, having no experience restoring an AS. Do you think I could still restore one? Is it better to learn from this forum's restoration threads or trying to get a job/apprenticeship with an AS restoration/repair company?

I would like to find and buy one inexpensively and fix it up.
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Old 12-14-2008, 10:36 AM   #23
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Many of us here are restoring our Airstreams with no previous experience. Do what work you can and have the humility to acknowledge when to bring in help when you don't know how to do something. A lot can be learned here on the forums.
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Old 12-14-2008, 03:38 PM   #25
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...bring in help when you don't know how to do something.
Aside from welding the frame, what else can the average person without experience not do on his own?
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Old 12-14-2008, 04:09 PM   #26
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Aside from welding the frame, what else can the average person without experience not do on his own?
It depends on how mechanically inclined you are. I've done a lot of things to our Airstreams I would not want someone with zero experience or mechanical ability to tackle, but if, for example, you have worked as an auto mechanic for a period of time, you would be able to do more.
Things I would want help with if I new zip about trailers would be:
Skin replacement
LPG systems
High voltage electrical (120 volt)
Frame and running gear work.
These are the things that could kill you or people around you if they go badly.
Other things, such as fresh water systems, would generally just make a mess if you made a mistake.
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Old 12-14-2008, 05:36 PM   #27
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Is it typical for an RV repair/restoration center to do apprenticeships or hire without pay till you learn?
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Old 12-14-2008, 05:37 PM   #28
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I look at Airstreams all the time for poeple. I can usually tell them how much it could cost for a full or partial restoration. If I can help in any way please let me know. I have a small shop in PA were I restore, repair and service Airstreams. My rates are very reasonable and I really enjoy it.

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