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Old 04-06-2014, 03:41 PM   #15
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Thanks blkmagikca,
Mine is an Atwood gas/electric water heater; attached are photos (hope this works; still new at posting on this site). In the photos, I've pointed to two items that might be the thermal breaker you are referring to but am unsure; the manual seems to refer to them as the thermal cut off and the spark probe. Anyway, at this point, I've given up on fixing this myself and look forward to my appointment (4/14) with Holiday Travel in Albuquerque (closest AS dealer).
Thanks for all the advice.
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Old 04-06-2014, 04:47 PM   #16
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Yes, it's the component you're pointing to that is enclosed in the clear tubing. The dealer should have you on your way in short order.
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Old 04-07-2014, 10:48 AM   #17
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OK - you have identified the thermal breaker (or cut-off), the purpose of which is to prevent a fire in the event of a blockage in the burner tube. The test you need to do is to use a voltmeter - set to measure 15 vdc, and test the voltage across ground to each side of the thermal breaker. If both sides of the thermal breaker show voltage when tested across to ground, then the issue is not the thermal breaker.

If it is the thermal breaker, you need to make sure the burner tube is cleared of spider webs and any obstructions (blowing through it with compressed air worked for me) and replace the thermal breaker - they come in a 2-pack kit for about $40.
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Old 04-07-2014, 01:24 PM   #18
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" water filter sysrem". When replacing a water filter on my 1987 31ft. electra, I cracked (small) the top plastic housing that that filter canister srews into.

A gentleman at home depot suggested I try a 2 part epoxy to seal the crack.

I'd go ahead and buy a whole new unit, however the install looks very challenging giving the extremely close quarters. It looks like there is 3 different galvanized (i think galvanized ) lines coming into the filtering system.

Has anyone ever successfully repaired a cracked water filter housing?

Also, I realize that this may not be the correct place for me to post questions myself. Can anyone direct me to the proper new questions area? Thank you, Billy
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Old 04-27-2014, 08:48 PM   #19
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Thanks to everyone who replied to my request for help about my water heater - it is working. Not sure of the problem but most likely operator error. When I brought it to the fine folks at Holiday Travel Trailers in Albuquerque, they indicated it worked fine.

Not sure what the problem was but here is my best guess. When I first started using the trailer in Colorado it was March and very cold and I may not have been patient enough to let the water heater do its job. After awhile I gave up on it thinking it was broken. By the time of my appointment in Albuquerque, a month later, it was considerably warmer. It works fine on electric and propane now.
Thanks again for all your suggestions.
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Old 04-27-2014, 08:56 PM   #20
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Hi Rob,

I also brought my International into service mainly to install solar panels but I asked them to check the water heater also for the electrical and since it was under warranty, they checked and did not find any problem,

You mentioned you gave up and not waited long enough. I also did so not knowing it takes 30-45 mins upon flipping the switch to start the process and heat the elements. It is not instantaneous as propane is.

I learn my lesson and know I have to be patient and schedule the water heater to kick on in a reasonable time.
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I know the electric element is a bit slower than the propane but 30+ minutes seems wrong. Mine gets hot on propane very quickly, maybe 15-20 min and electric is not much longer. A lot will depend on the temps of the incoming cold water though. So maybe it's just that I have not been in a hurry. We all know how long a watched pot takes to boil
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Old 04-28-2014, 08:37 AM   #22
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Thanks Gary,
Yes, patience is one of many things I'm learning with the AS
BTW, I had 350 watts of solar panels installed by the dealer plus a 3000 watt pure sine Xantrex inverter but for some reason can't seem to run a 1600 watt appliance when dry camping. First time this happened it was the fuse but now it is something else. Could be another operator error but am taking it back to my dealer next month when in Colorado.
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Thanks Gary,
Yes, patience is one of many things I'm learning with the AS
BTW, I had 350 watts of solar panels installed by the dealer plus a 3000 watt pure sine Xantrex inverter but for some reason can't seem to run a 1600 watt appliance when dry camping. First time this happened it was the fuse but now it is something else. Could be another operator error but am taking it back to my dealer next month when in Colorado.
All the best,
Rob
Rob, while your Xantrex Freedom has the capacity to run 3000 watts, the reserve in the batteries likely won't be sufficient, as the absolute maximum they can recharge from solar is 350 watts (in reality, it will be somewhat less, depending on the angle of the sun, etc). When you attempt to run the larger load (1600 watts), the draw on your batteries causes them to heat, and the thermal sensor from the Xantrex which is attached to the battery post will shut it down.

I had tried a similar thing this past January while camping in the Mohave Desert. The sun was strong and I decided to heat up a bowl of soup in the microwave instead of on the stove. I noticed that the current draw was 134 amperes (I have the Xantrex Freedom 3000 charger inverter with the remote control panel). My 4 AGM batteries really didn't survive that, as the heat from the heavy draw caused some water vapor to exit the relief valve, thereby reducing the batteries' capacity. That night I lost all power and the batteries dropped to 3.7 volts. 4 days later I was at Interstate of Las Vegas shelling out another $1,200 to replace the 4 AGM batteries.
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Old 04-28-2014, 09:23 AM   #24
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Thanks blkmagikca!
Sounds very similar to the problem I'm experiencing. Thought my 350watts of panels, 4 6volt batteries, 3000watt PS inverter, and traveling in the western sunny states would be sufficient for dry camping with 1600watt appliances but based on your explanation - maybe not. Also sounds like I have an operator problem rather than an equipment problems. Thanks for your explanation; as you can tell, I'm still learning
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