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Old 05-02-2009, 09:50 PM   #1
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Vinyl Floor Buckling

Our Airstream survived its first winter. When we checked on it during the winter, we noticed the loose-lay vinyl floor buckling. We expected this and were impressed that it didn't crack as some cheaper floors do. The weather has finally warmed up and we expected it to lay down by now. We've been pushing it to the sides and stepping straight on it trying to encourage it to slip back under the furniture, but it hasn't budged. This seems to be common with new Airstreams up here. What can we do to promote its flattening? The dealer had no advice for us.
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Old 05-03-2009, 06:33 AM   #2
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Is the vinyl buckled all over or in one area?
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:10 AM   #3
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I have a 23 foot side bed, so there isn't much vinyl between the bed and bathroom, and that area is fine. The rest of our trailer (kitchen, entrance, table, etc) has buckled flooring. Our neighbours bought a 2008 model too and this spring they have the same problem. Their trailer is a 25 foot front bed. It has affected their whole trailer, except for the bedroom which is carpeted. The dealer (we dealt with the same one) told them it'll go down when the weather gets above freezing. It's been above that for a while now and it is still buckled. We have extremely cold winters here (it can reach -40F). There are even people who have businesses that go around and replace vinyl floors on SOBs that are still new and on the lots because their floors have cracked. Luckily our floor is very pliable, but we can't seem to encourage it to go back under the furniture. We hope we won't have to remove the screws and lift the sofa, dinette, and kitchen to get it to lay flat underneath. Hope you've heard of the same problem...
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This is the second floor issue I've heard in 3 days now, both fairly new trailers.

Here was the other:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f36/...fix-50904.html

Though I don't have any answers as to why except somewhere there may be an installation problem (go figure!), I would contact your dealer and/or Airstream directly and send them pictures of it.

I would also highly recommend that you post your findings and pictures, including any follow up info of this to the 2008 model year quality thread as it is a great central location for all QC issues both good and not so good. That thread can be found here:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f142...ity-31210.html
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:46 AM   #5
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If these Airstreams are still under warranty, won't the dealer repair/replace the flooring?
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:50 AM   #6
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The simple answer is yes, however that's the simple answer....there are some authorized Airstream Service Centers/Dealers that I wouldn't take my niece's Big Wheel to....... while other dealers/service centers are top notch....the trick is to find a good one that can do some higher end type stuff and do it well. The factory is one such place I am aware of, some place in Texas, I think it's Roger something Airstream, Airstream of Arkansas, Ace Fogdall in Iowa, Inland RV in Corona, CA...there are perhaps a handful I have left out and for that I aplogize, but as you can see, of the quasi large dealer/service network, a handful isn't really all that big.
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Thanks Silvertwinkie. I will post in the forum area you suggested. I know it's probably covered under warranty, but as you implied, not all dealers are capable of handling it. I'm too afraid to take it in. The dealer here is new and has probably not done any warranty work yet. I am posting one picture and I'll post a couple others in the 2008 forum.
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Wow!! I thought mine was bad you should send that picture to the warranty dept at Airstream. That's ridiculous. I would bring it to the factory in JC if you can.
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I dont mean to hijack here, but I have been following several threads lately where quality of work in JC has been discussed and I have to ask- do these people not know about the economy? Do they not feel the slightest pressure to step up the quality control? Maybe I am naive, but I would be doing everything in the world to make customers happy right now.
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Hi bolerama.
My floor looks alot like yours at timers. By midsummer it seems to have settled down although it returns each winter. I was just down south where the winters don't get that cold and say at least 2 new trailers in a dealers lot that had the same issue.If you persue this and get any answers please post them.
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Wow! That's REALLY bad... I thought it'd be just a bump. Seeing how you're in Canada... are you close to the NW? I know it's a drive, but Airstream of Spokane could fix you up...

Seems like the vinyl wasn't glued down at all?
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Seems like the vinyl wasn't glued down at all?
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If the flooring is glued to the subfloor, it could crack or tear the vinyl where the joints in the subfloor are. The subfloor moves more than you realize when the trailer is going down the road, and the pieces don't all move in the same direction at the same time.
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When the tech at JC fixed the floor in our bathroom, he told me he glued it. That says to me the floor does not float, but is glued (unless he didn't know that). I think the vinyl is too thin to float; flooring like Pergo is relatively thick and does float. If the vinyl and the subfloor expand and contract at different rates, I would think they have to be glued to prevent problems. Aren't the subfloor joints filled to prevent cracking? Can vinyl stretch and if so, how would it shrink, and how could subzero temps stretch it? If the subfloor contracts more than the vinyl I suppose the vinyl would have to go somewhere and the only direction is up, and then most of the time it would stay there unless you stand on it for a few weeks. Vinyl experts please explain this.

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Just wondering if people who have replaced floor with vinyl have had the same problem. Could it be a flaw in the supplier? Your picture made me realize this is a severe and dangerous problem. Maybe just painting my floor wasn't such a bad idea.
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