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Old 03-31-2003, 11:48 AM   #1
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Angry two problems

This is my 4th airstream and it is a 1998 31' classic and I have the following problems and thought maybe somebody could help.
1. Water pump runs but does not pump water. sound like it has lost its prime. Have checked all strainers etc and seem fine.
2. When dometic fridge is on gas and we are traveling, it goes out and does not relight. You can imagine the problem when it is hot outside and long distance to go.
anybody have any suggestions or fixes.
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Old 03-31-2003, 01:55 PM   #2
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As far as your fridge goes there have been issues with the newer A/S with flame out problems when the trailer is moving. There are two solutions given at this point. One is to install a small furnace filter that will cover the openings in the door. I was told this was sort of a last resort fix and that I should remove the filter while parked to increase airflow.

The other method is a sheet metal baffle. Here is a picture of one.

I have the baffle in my Safari and it has taken care of the problem.

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Old 03-31-2003, 02:36 PM   #3
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Old 04-21-2003, 07:43 PM   #4
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dumb question-but is it ok to run your refrigerator on gas when you are traveling down the road.
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Old 04-21-2003, 08:03 PM   #5
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rochar3, check the strainer(s) again. My pump did not seem to be pumping after it was dewinterized. The screw would not tighten up as the hole was stripped in the plastic holding the clear plastic bulb on. I could see air bubbling in from around the edge of the "O" ring.
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Old 04-21-2003, 08:07 PM   #6
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That's not a dumb question at all.My manual indicates that it WAS acceptable practice in 1976.I,however,have been towing with mine off as I thought there was a law prohibiting such practice for safety reasons -for example a collision,rock penetration of exposed live gas line,etc.
Maybe somebody can clarify which practice is legal.
It would make my wife alot happier if all the food wasn't warm every time we get to a campsite!!
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Old 04-21-2003, 08:08 PM   #7
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Water pump lost prime

Could well be that some construction debris has blocked an ell or an inlet.

You might try to rig up an air hose and blow from the pump to the Potable Water tank.
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I just had the same problem. Do you have a "winterizing valve" between the pump and the tank? I had one installed so all I have to do is flip a valve and place the extra hose right in to the antifreeze bottle. I makes it so easy to winterize the camper. Make sure the valve is back in to "summer mode" if it's not the pump will sounds like it going dry.
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Running fridge whjle travelling

Yes, it is perfectly legal at least 99% of the time.

Exceptions are some tunnels and bridges. For instance, the tunnel in Mobile, AL. Going east, I was advise to turn off the gas at the Visitor's Center and to pull off near the Battleship Alabama to relight.

In Texas, there is no way we could travel the miles we travel, in the temperatures we have, and not provide cooling enroute.
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Old 04-22-2003, 01:24 AM   #10
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two problems

RE: Traveling with the Refrigerator Running on LP

While there aren't nationwide laws banning the practice, it is imperative to remember to extinguish all flames prior to entering a refueling stop. Take it from someone who travels with Murphy's Law as a constant companion. Three times in the last 7 years, I have had hoses rupture at gas pumps sending aywhere from 5 gallons to in excess of 50 gallons of gasoline cascading onto the pavement. Concern about just such situations is why I never traveled with my gas valves on and is why I continue to follow the practice. In fact, today when I was filling up in preparation for my 400 mile drive back to my current residence - - I looked down to discover fuel oozing from cracks in the fuel delivery hose at the service station that has only been in operation for three years (reported this to the manager - - he was disbelieving, but checked and discovered that I was correct and immediately closed the pump). When I purchased a new refrigerator for my '64 Overlander it was a 3-way Dometic so it cools beautifully on 12-volt while traveling - - will experiment with the Minuet this summer - - it may be seeing a new 3-way refrigerator as well.

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Kevin I concur with your thoughts. I do travel with LP on but always shut down the refrigerator before moving to the pumps. Personally I know I'm safe but I can't trust others out there. For that reason I will not refuel where I see another RV at the pumps.

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It would make my wife alot happier if all the food wasn't warm every time we get to a campsite!!
Creampuff,

here is what we do:

1_make sure your fridge & freezer are completely packed. Leave just enough room to put "blue ice" in both.
2_put frozen stuff you are planning to eat right away in the fridge: frozen OJ, frozen container of stew,... If you have too much space left, add frozen bottles of water.
We travel a lot for most part of the day that way, and the fridge ends up still cold.
If you can, try not to open the doors while on the road.
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[QUOTE]make sure your fridge & freezer are completely packed. Leave just enough room to put "blue ice" in both.
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That works OK for the first leg of a trip, but my refrigerator (and many others) is too small for that to work on a practical basis. Two packs of blue ice would take up most of my freezer space or the freezer space in a Bambi (and just about all the freezer space on a 22' CCD).

Even with larger freezers, the cooling power of a RV fridge is marginal to keep freezer temperatures safe when recooling the blue ice. I tried it with my former 6 cu ft unit and I didn't like what my thermometer showed.

I do like the 3-way option and would use it in all but the highest temperature trips if my trailer had it.
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You know, in all the years we've camped, I had NEVER even considered the issue of an open flame from the fridge at the gas station. What a total nightmare that could be.

For me, I run mine while on the road using the LP gas. Since mine is on the "passenger" side, I don't get the blow by from the trucks. This last trip I took, the camper was exposed to 30 MPH winds that hit the exterior fridge compartment directly and I passed several semis and was passed and pushed by many semis. In each case the flame on the Bambi never went out. I think if your fridge is on the "driver's" side, Jack's mod looks like the way to go.

I may start to shut it down when going to fill up for gas. That to me makes the most sense, I can't believe I didn't even consider it.

As for the blue things, I agree that I don't have that kind of real estate in the fridge to be able to give up that space for auxillary cooling. It needs to work as designed and to me that design is LP gas on while in transit.

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