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Old 02-23-2013, 08:37 AM   #15
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A beam type is simpler and perhaps more durable, but some folks have trouble bending all the way down to get a direct perpendicular look at the pointer. You have to be pretty much directly above or at the end of the pointer for an accurate reading.
That is a good point. So as not to have to bend so much to read the numbers, I drilled a small hole in the scale of my beam type wrench next to the correct
value for the lug nuts to make it easier to see when I was on target.

I suppose if I put a small bolt & nut in that hole (as long as it didn't interfere with the pointer of course !) it would be even easier to see from above when the pointer was aligned with the bolt "marker."

I have nothing against the click type wrenches - in fact I own one as well, I think I just prefer the simplicity of the beam style wrench - really nothing much to go wrong with it and no need to remember to wind the tension off the spring after each use.

I did have to scrap one inexpensive click wrench years ago when it stopped clicking and I couldn't seem to resolve it - that probably influenced my view of click wrenches - but then I should know better than to buy cheap tools - I usually don't !

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Old 02-23-2013, 08:40 AM   #16
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I, too, have one of each, Brian. The beam style I got in 1982 when I started my auto tech schooling. That speaks volumes for their durability. They cost a lot less too. I like your bolt/hole idea.
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Old 02-23-2013, 08:43 AM   #17
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I use torque sticks and a wind wrench....


Carry a 1/2" drive Snap-on TW and a + wrench for emergencies on the road.

POI...you might consider changing out the cheep capped lug nuts with a solid chrome lug....

Cheep, notice seam at shoulder...


Mcgard....IMO the best replacement.

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Old 02-23-2013, 08:47 AM   #18
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Yup, torque sticks are great....I've never picked up a set....for some reason. I have seen them sold individually as well. Might be a good alternative to a wrench for a dedicated AS tool. X2 on McGard....already done, and well worth it.
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:43 PM   #19
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Thanks for the helpful hints ... Ace Hardware here it come ...
Not knocking Ace but in case you cannot find one handy (they are disappearing in my part of the world), Home Depot sells a Husky 1/2" for less than ~$90 if memory serves me. One of my torque wrenches is a Husky and the quality is quite good for the price.
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Concur With Alphonse

Husky is good.
I find "Click" type is easier to use than "beam" type (I have both in 3/8 and 1/2)
Always "unload" your torque wrench when you aren't using it. (Adjust it back to zero)
Never use your torque wrench for a breaker bar.
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Husky is good.
I find "Click" type is easier to use than "beam" type (I have both in 3/8 and 1/2)
Always "unload" your torque wrench when you aren't using it. (Adjust it back to zero)
Never use your torque wrench for a breaker bar.
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That's exactly why I think a torque stick in the AS would be good:
1 breaker bar and one torque stick and one socket
verses:
1 breaker bar, one torque wrench, one socket and 1 extension. Might save a couple pounds with the torque stick combo.
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Hmmm. Less is more. Can I purchase a 100# torque stick, or must I purchase a set?
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Old 02-25-2013, 08:16 PM   #23
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I have seen them separately....just did a quick search....shop around, but yes...

1/2'' 22mm/7/8'' x 100 lb. Lt. Blue Torque Skt

or here:

http://www.torquestick.com/cart/100-...-BAR-Blue.html
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Hi, OK, don't get confused; Torque sticks only work with pneumatic impact wrenches/guns.


Note: Robert Cross used a slang term "Wind Wrench".
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That's exactly why I think a torque stick in the AS would be good:
1 breaker bar and one torque stick and one socket
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1 breaker bar, one torque wrench, one socket and 1 extension. Might save a couple pounds with the torque stick combo.
POI....you need a wind wench to use a stick.

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Bob, not sure what you are saying (or the link), but it would be "easier" with a ratchet, but works equally well with any torqueing device (ratchet, impact, or breaker). With a breaker, you'd just have to remove the socket and start your "swing" over and over. I also disagree with the link poster's opinion of inaccuracy, per GM training and bulletins back in the mid 80s when they were REQUIRED for torqueing lug nuts on, over a torque wrench, due to potential stress warping brake rotors. There was a HUGE push for reduction of rotating and unsprung mass back then and the rotors/hubs were THIN! Torque sticks are generally considered more consistent than the operator of a torque wrench.
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Rich,

I agree they are much more consistent.
But was always instructed that it is the flex action of the stick that caused the impact wrench to ratchet.
Seems to me it would be very difficult to note that flex visually.
I will admit though I have never tried using one without the wind wench.

Quotes from my tool archive...

"Torque sticks are used with an impact wrench and are flexible. This limits the amount of torque that can be applied and prevents overtightening because they will bend once a certain torque has been reached. Their appeal lies in the fact that they are much faster than other means of applying and measuring torque, and they are also easy to use.


Accuracy,
Torque sticks are accurate. A study by General Motors found that torque sticks from one manufacturer were precise within two percent of a specified value, which is more precise than their advertised five percent. This may vary by manufacturer.

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Will have to give it a try.

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Give it a try and let us know. I know they always talk about them with impacts....but that was the reason they were invented....for speed and stall efficiency where time is money. I know you know what I am talking about! If you use them in a shop with a hand ratchet or breaker, you might as well get out the torque wrench....no faster.

If I understand the internals (there's a couple of different designs) they work just like the twist dial torque wrenches....you'll feel a "slip/knock" when you're there. HOWEVER, I THINK that if you ignore the slip/knock you can keep torqueing up the lug nut, just like a torque wrench. An impact can't do that, by it's design.
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