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07-22-2019, 11:37 AM
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Site Team
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere
, South Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,436
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Originally Posted by Hans627
And not to be left out, gas vs. diesel!
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Ok pardner, ya crossed the line with that one. Compression ignition rules forever. I’m spark plug free for over 14 years.
Have a nice day.
What about camp fire vs no camp fire?
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S/OS #001 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 5.9L 6 Speed
16" Michelins, Hi Spec Wheels, Max Brake, Dexter 4 Piston Disc Brakes, Carslile Actuator, Equal-I-Zer, Dill TPMS. Campfire cook. BMV-712. DEMCO 21K Lb Cast Iron coupler
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07-22-2019, 11:44 AM
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Rivet Master
2002 30' Classic S/O
Fleming Island
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 4,668
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My fear would be 5-10 years from now when the 2019 trailer needs an appliance replaced and there is no update for the trailer operating system to interface with the new product, or when the main controller fails and can't be repaired.
I'm OK with de-centralized technology - make my AC unit as smart as it needs to be but it doesn't need to talk to the fridge (or whatever).
Al
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Al, K5TAN and Missy, N4RGO WBCCI 1322
2002 Classic 30 Slideout -S/OS #004
2013 Dodge 2500 Laramie 4x4 Megacab Cummins
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07-22-2019, 11:55 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB International
Trent Woods
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,120
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Al and Missy
My fear would be 5-10 years from now when the 2019 trailer needs an appliance replaced and there is no update for the trailer operating system to interface with the new product, or when the main controller fails and can't be repaired.
I'm OK with de-centralized technology - make my AC unit as smart as it needs to be but it doesn't need to talk to the fridge (or whatever).
Al
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I completely agree! Look at how many old Airstreams are still round. The technology is not going to last that long and I doubt that there will be any way to keep it running for the second decade of its life. If you need the technology to operate your trailer, your are SOL. Replacing a TV or a stereo is an easier issue.
Larry
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07-22-2019, 01:59 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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The higher the technology the quicker it will become obsolete. Tow vehicles are a prime example and this has been exacerbated by the EPA mandates. I wish someone would do a real environmental impact study of how much is gained by throwing away a $60,000 tow vehicle because they are not reliable past the warranty period versus keeping what you have. Making cars and trucks takes resources and makes pollution. Something as simple as a tractor is now a computerized nightmare. One has to think about how many layers of technology is require to make a computer chip. If we had some sort of collapse of society, we would be death, dumb, and blind with no food source. 90% of the population, at least, would die from starvation within a few months. I can fix everything in my trailer and most everything in my tow vehicle. I like to know that I can get out of situations if something were to fail.
Perry
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07-22-2019, 09:00 PM
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Cloudland2
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Trenton
, Georgia
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 439
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Sounds like an epidemic of olefartitis. . Suffering myself from a terminal case
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WBCCI #2584
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07-22-2019, 10:24 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1994 28' Excella
Manhattan
, Kansas
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 378
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I just spent the afternoon trying to get the Harmony to interface with my LG Projector TV, Samsung Blu-Ray player, Dish Wally, Firestick and the Bose soundbar. Getting closer but can't quite claim victory yet.
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Dennis & Ellie
1994 Excella Classic Unlimited 28 Foot
2017 RAM 2500 Gas 3170 Payload
and
2017 Newmar Ventana Class A DP 7224 Payload
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07-22-2019, 10:43 PM
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Silver Star
1970 23' Safari
Victoria
, British Columbia
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 352
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Thanks ...great post
Im always amazed at the things that are a crisis for some people.
I Did the canvas scout tent too!!!
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07-23-2019, 03:49 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by perryg114
The higher the technology the quicker it will become obsolete. Tow vehicles are a prime example and this has been exacerbated by the EPA mandates. I wish someone would do a real environmental impact study of how much is gained by throwing away a $60,000 tow vehicle because they are not reliable past the warranty period versus keeping what you have. Making cars and trucks takes resources and makes pollution. Something as simple as a tractor is now a computerized nightmare. One has to think about how many layers of technology is require to make a computer chip. If we had some sort of collapse of society, we would be death, dumb, and blind with no food source. 90% of the population, at least, would die from starvation within a few months. I can fix everything in my trailer and most everything in my tow vehicle. I like to know that I can get out of situations if something were to fail.
Perry
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Thank you for this excellent post!
Peter
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07-23-2019, 05:18 AM
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#29
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
League City
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 6,139
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As the old saying goes, it's not what you have - it's what you DO with it, that makes it either a problem or a solution.
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07-23-2019, 06:40 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,638
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The latest video form the Airstream couple LoLoHo talks about aging.
One of the features they promoted was how high end RV's may have everything "automated" to make setting up easier. Self levelers, touch screen controls from everything from AC to window shades to dimmers.
I had to chuckle. I got an Airstream to get away from all the systems that need constant maintenance or repair.
I used to work around the guys with the million dollar motorhomes, and there was always something needing fixing. "The satellite dish on the roof won't move."
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07-23-2019, 06:57 AM
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Living Riveted since 2013
2016 Interstate Lounge Ext
Green Cove Springs
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 8,201
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There's so much high-tech stuff I don't think I want to see in my Airstream - not because I wouldn't love to have it, but because I know they can't build it so it works reliably...especially after being shaken like a martini as we haul it down the things that pass for roads around here.
Even without any high tech in here (aside from our ridiculous powered awning), there's always something that needs fixing in our Airstream. Why, just last week I had to epoxy the other curved door under our sink because it fell off. The first one fell off long ago, this one just took longer. Works like a charm, and all I needed to fix it was a little JB Weld wood epoxy.
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07-23-2019, 07:55 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2013 25' Flying Cloud
Crystal River
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 474
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans627
And not to be left out, gas vs. diesel!
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My favorite: You must have a dualie. Anything less and you are endangering not only the DW but everyone else on the road. Think of the children!!
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07-23-2019, 07:59 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Our first AS TV....loaded with hi-tek stuff.... pwr windows AND seats.😂
Bob
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07-23-2019, 08:23 AM
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Rivet Master
1964 22' Safari
modesto
, California
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,094
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"Wish I could find my “Artesian Search and Rescue Team” bumper sticker. 20 points for anyone that remembers and explains the reference![/QUOTE]"
-Dennis
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07-23-2019, 08:46 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Yup. I brake for Artesians.
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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07-23-2019, 09:20 AM
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#36
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler"
--Albert Einstein
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The fact that I am opinionated does not presuppose that I am wrong......
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07-23-2019, 09:24 AM
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Rivet Master
1990 25' Excella
Sisters
, Oregon
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,195
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Morgan
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler"
--Albert Einstein
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!! PERFECT !!
Cheers,
John
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Air Cooled Porsche Specialist -
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less traveled. ~ Robert Frost
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07-25-2019, 08:43 AM
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#38
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Silver Star
1970 23' Safari
Victoria
, British Columbia
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 352
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Quote:
Originally Posted by batman
"Wish I could find my “Artesian Search and Rescue Team” bumper sticker. 20 points for anyone that remembers and explains the reference!
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-Dennis[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the bringing back the memory of the great commercials they did back then for beer ......still looking for those "artesians" .......LOL:bb
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07-25-2019, 10:19 AM
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#39
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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See Post #34.
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07-25-2019, 10:57 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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I think the “Bud-wise-Er” frogs also retired years ago...
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Rich, KE4GNK/AE, Overkill Engineering Dept.
'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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