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11-19-2002, 07:46 PM
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4 Rivet Member
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Stupid Human Tricks
For those of use that are blessed (or cursed) with Bargman 99's
(Wedding Cake tail lights) I offer my stupid human enhancement advice:
Being less than happy with the "brightness" of my tail lights, I set about to increase their "Lumens"
What I settled for was to mount little convex mirrors directly behind the bulbs. I'm am sure that it increased the "Lumens"
by at least 500! So far so good! Even after inspection!
Also ... will one of you "Brainyer" types please explain what the heck a "Lumen" really is? I guess I shouldn't use a word that I really don't understand well ..... well?
DMC
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11-19-2002, 08:21 PM
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3 Rivet Member
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A Lumen is......
basically 1 candlepower. Webster's version: a unit of luminus flux equal to the light emitted in a unit solid angle by a uniform point scorce of one candle intensity! But where to start with a candle and your tail lights, hmmmmm! I do agree with your Bargman observation, way to "dim". Oscar
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11-19-2002, 09:12 PM
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4 Rivet Member
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Thanks for the clarification!
I knew someone would know exactly what they were!
I finally learned something new today ... now I may goto sleep!
DMC
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11-20-2002, 05:50 AM
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Just a member
1978 28' Argosy 28
Lutz
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 4,549
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Another option would be to replace the standard bulbs with those high power LED types. They are supposed to be brighter , but without the heat. Of course they are not cheap, but I say saftey first. The mirror is a good plan as well, I may need to add something like that to my MH lights.
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WBCCI #5501 AIR # 49
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1978 Argosy 28 foot Motorhome
Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. -- Plato
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11-20-2002, 06:17 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 26' Overlander
Woodstock
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 8,525
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"Lumen tree very pretty and the lumen flower is sweet"
Trini Lopez 1963
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11-20-2002, 08:29 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1971 27' Overlander
Cornville
, Arizona
Join Date: May 2002
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Dim Tail Lights
Light was so bright I had to were sunglasses......No! not really. When I overhauled my tail/stop lights I spray painted the housing with a silver paint [Rustoleum] to protect from rust. Tom
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PERFECT Trailer- Dog loves it- Wife hates it!!! You're not camping until you're miserable!
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11-20-2002, 09:14 AM
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4 Rivet Member
Join Date: Feb 2002
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L.E.D.s
Brett ... I like the L.e.d idea!
I also repainted my mounting area, but first started with that
"turn rust into black paint stuff" seemed to work well.
The real challenge was creating new gaskets. I used a liquid
"gasket maker" stuff. I almost made the mistake of letting the goo dry without removing it. Almost caused a permently bonded
light. I used good old WD40 as a release agent. All is fine now!
DMC
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11-20-2002, 01:16 PM
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Rivet Master
LOST
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Another interesting fact I discovered while researching LED lights- they light up faster than incandescent bulbs. The people following will get more stopping distance because they see the brake light sooner.
John
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11-20-2002, 01:19 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1972 31' Sovereign
High Springs
, Florida
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 2,311
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LED Bulbs
An Amish man sells them around here. They are $29.95 for ONE bulb. It has 6 LED's in it. If anyone wants to purchase their own WHITE LED's, I found a source. They are around $2.37 each. Email or PM me if your interested.
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2003 GMC 2500HD 4X4 D/A Ext. Cab
Propane Powered Honda EU2000i
Lots of Hot Sauce!
Air # 283
WBCCI 1350
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11-20-2002, 01:39 PM
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Contributing Member
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Austin (Hays County)
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,164
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LED Taillights
My 2003 International has LED tail/stop lights. There must be 20 LEDs in each of the 4 lights. They are really bright.
My only problem so far is some condensation inside one of the lights.
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2018 Interstate GT, "Sabre-Dog V"
WBCCI #9632
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11-20-2002, 01:46 PM
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4 Rivet Member
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Codensation
John,
Condensation leads to RUST!
Rust never sleeps! (Neil Young)
Better check your gasket!
I know that you know this, though I state the obvious for those who may not know.
OH what a run on sentence!
DMC
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11-20-2002, 01:53 PM
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Contributing Member
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Austin (Hays County)
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,164
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Not the gasket
Actually, the gasket looks good. I is brand new and not crimped in any way.
The bad news is that once the bezel and gasket are removed, the light units are sealed tight so that there isn't any way to dry them out. The dealer told me to just open them, dry them, and reassemble them,but besides the fact that the lens is bonded to the back, the wires are so short that it isn't possible to get the light out far enough to work on it. I'm going to dump this problem back on the dealer.
Next time I go out to the trailer, I'll take a photo to post.
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2018 Interstate GT, "Sabre-Dog V"
WBCCI #9632
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11-20-2002, 02:08 PM
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Rivet Master
LOST
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Join Date: Jun 2002
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The Trucklite stop/tail lights I ended up using have 48 leds in each and also are very bright. Another benefit is very low current draw. The 4 lights I have now draw a little more than 1 bulb, 2.0a for the stops, .32a for the tail lights. . The life span is incredible compared to a bulb, these are guaranteed for the life of the vehicle, original owner, legal mumbo jumbo, etc.
John
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