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Old 08-31-2007, 03:07 PM   #1
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Safari 23' SE DUST Inhaler- 2006

My wife and I have owned this Safari SE for two years and thousands of miles of western travel. Many roads in the western states are unpaved and gravel roads are common occurrences. Dirt with some gravel in probably more the norm, but I need some additional advice on how to prevent what I call an abnormal amount of "dirt accumulation" on the refrigerator side of the trailer's interior. I do realize that dust is a fact of life, when the average humidity on the Great Basin or High Plains can hover below 15%... This is a situation where you need a dust broom and pan to remove the accumulation in the interior space. More dirt is trapped in the water pump area, under the sink space, and the areas over the axles on the left side of the trailer.

Here are things I have done over the last two years attempting to find the cause or causes:
(1) Resealed the black sealant in the fender well that had peeled off and not remaining attached to the putty filler. There are still small rectangles of open space I need to seal, and edge contacts of fender well and frame.
(2) Sealed the air space on the left, right and top of refrigerator exterior area with foam pipe tubing, duct taped where possible- for last attempt over the foam pipe tubing pressed in the open spaces.
(3) Sealed the rear storage compartment to improve original seals with marine gaskets with the adhesive side application.
(4) The cook top vent has a rubber fuel line hose, split to prevent the flap from opening when traveling. The plastic swivels always release the flap when moving.
(5) All windows and ceiling vents are ALWAYS CLOSED when traveling.
(6) The right fender well plastic liner is misfitted on the outside center edge contact with the trim, so part of it has an opening to the interior that was discovered by accident on this last trip. (I was told the fender welds are double insulated, so this would have been a minor problem- but I will have to devise a way to press the area flat and secure it shortly.)

Have I missed something? We clean the trailer from top to bottom before we leave and the first dirt/gravel road, we feel we are sucking all of the roads clean in the western US.
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Old 08-31-2007, 03:24 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forums. Your public service of keeping the highways clean for the rest of us has been duly noted, and appreciated.
I have an idea, that may or may not work:
If when you are towing, you look above, and see no dust above the front of the trailer, you can try installing a maxx-air vent cover, with the open end facing forward. Leave the front vent open, and tow the trailer. My theory is the increased air pressure from the open vent scooping relatively clean air in will keep the dust out. It would not be a good idea to leave the vent open while towing if it looks like rain, but IIRC, the rainy season there consists of two cloudbursts a year.
Let me know if this idea works, and I'll patent it. (reverse-osmosis pressurized dust control)
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Old 08-31-2007, 06:09 PM   #3
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Thank you for the tip, we have not tried. When we lost the "fragile" white vent lid on this trip in a casino parking lot in Wendover, Nevada my wife noticed something we had not seen before. The vent covers you are speaking about. We plan to cover both the front and back top vents now so we can sit in any weather with the vents open and not fear that at any whim of the wind, we do not lose that white vent cover again at just under $29.00. Did pick up a replacement lid in Reno, Nevada at the Airstream dealership there and Larry, the Airstream salesman, loaned me a step ladder to replace the missing lid.

My wife began keeping track of trailers and big RV's using the vent covers on the highway this week and it is more than 60% had the covers added.

We did notice some trailers, no Airstreams, with unsealed vents open on the asphalt travel, but we will have to catch someone parked for questioning on the benefit(s). I was under the impression that you want to keep the inside of the trailer sealed to keep higher air pressurized within. Like an air plane. When you are moving down the highway, the internal pressure is higher than the air moving over the Airstream. Someone please proove that I am wrong with this assumption. I would prefer someone else to experiment, as this dust will cover everything inside the trailer if prooved wrong... again.
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:22 AM   #4
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We did notice some trailers, no Airstreams, with unsealed vents open on the asphalt travel, but we will have to catch someone parked for questioning on the benefit(s). I was under the impression that you want to keep the inside of the trailer sealed to keep higher air pressurized within. Like an air plane. When you are moving down the highway, the internal pressure is higher than the air moving over the Airstream. Someone please proove that I am wrong with this assumption. I would prefer someone else to experiment, as this dust will cover everything inside the trailer if prooved wrong... again.
Unless you are moving from an area of very high pressure to one of low pressure your point is moot. And as you've duly noted the trailer is not exactly air tight. I think you are probably on the right track by attempting to seal the trailer as tight as you can get it.

If the air above the trailer is not dusty (and that would surprise me) then forcing air in the top with some kind of ram would help. Probably not great for mileage though.
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:13 PM   #5
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The air pressure trick is standard procedure on automobiles in Alaska driving their huge dirt-gravel road system - turn the ventilation dash blower on high to pressurize interior and live with whatever invades - the blower on high trick was also recommended in the owners manual for my Z28 Camaro whenever getting a high pressure car wash.

I can see a problem of 'hood scooping' into trailer - every time you follow another vehicle or pass oncoming traffic the trailer vent ingests dust, plus rain and road spray, and the chaff from 18-wheeler liquefactions of various road hazards unless you can add a filter and remotely close the vent for the 'storms' duration.

On my vintage '73 they were not overly concerned with sealing the refrigerator installation; the draft plenum is off center so the wire screen and a sliver of space into belly is seen with carpet pulled - and none of the propane lines were sealed where they enter through the floorboards - and I haven't looked too deeply under the cover shell side... keep looking as there are unlimited possibilities...
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I have a 2006 Safari SE that I just got about two months ag used. The fellow that had it before us never used it. We've had it out one weekend so far so this is an interesting thread for me.
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:47 PM   #7
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As for the fridge air inlet, I remember a cut-down furnace filter being discussed to put over hte hole. I don't remember the results of the thread, though. A search with "furnace filter" and "fridge" may get you to the thread.
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:52 PM   #8
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I was under the impression that you want to keep the inside of the trailer sealed to keep higher air pressurized within. Like an air plane. When you are moving down the highway, the internal pressure is higher than the air moving over the Airstream.
Hi Ray,

The reason the pressure is higher inside an airplane is because air is pumped into the cabin. In jet aircraft, some of the compressed air from the engine is routed into the cabin and is known as ďbleed air.Ē On non pressurized aircraft, the interior pressure is no higher than outside and high altitudes require oxygen. Thatís why they have that little lecture every time you fly.
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Old 09-02-2007, 04:00 PM   #9
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Thatís why they have that little lecture every time you fly.
But my Airstream doesn't have those little yellow masks that drop out of the ceiling in case of a cabin pressure loss.
(going to stand in the corner now...)
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But my Airstream doesn't have those little yellow masks that drop out of the ceiling in case of a cabin pressure loss.
(going to stand in the corner now...)
What!!? It doesnít? I guess that they didnít become standard till the 1980s. Just donít take it up to 25,000 feet, ok Terry?
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Old 09-02-2007, 04:42 PM   #11
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I can't remember who told me this now a dealer either Airstream or Jim Baretta at Fantastic vent I think. Traveling with both fantastic vents in would blow the dust away on dirt roads. Whoever it was said Airstreamers or RVers had done that to keep the road dirt out in the past. However where they were traveling the rate of speed they were traveling and the wind volocity all might be important factors. ????

I believe I read in a thread of John Irwin's (Pahaska) that he actually called fantastic vent and was told the fans and dome COULD be used in travel just to have the dome ALL the way open. John are you there, is that so?
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I have a 2006 Safari SE that I just got about two months ag used. The fellow that had it before us never used it. We've had it out one weekend so far so this is an interesting thread for me.
Hi Glenn,

Looks like we might have the same trailer. Check out our pics. We are also in OC.

And as far as the ram/scoop idea was concerned, an air filter would be a good idea assuming you can get one to stay in at speed. Maybe install from top?
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Hey Grant,
Looks like my trailor but without the dog in front.
I don't know enough about this to make enlightened conversation but seems to me if the scoop was reversed it could blow off. Interesting idea anyway.
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Pressurized cabin... hmmm... if you ran a hose from the exhaust of the tow vehicle into the interior of the cabin, the exhaust would pressurize the cabin and keep the dust out. And the faster the rig went, the higher the pressure inside to keep the dust out! Yeah, yeah... that's it! That's the ticket!!!!

Ok... maybe not...

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