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06-04-2018, 06:32 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 19' International
Tallahassee
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 938
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Rivet, we hardly knew ye
After banging around on some rough roads (Thanks, Tennessee) we got home to find an interior rivet had given up the ghost.
Are these hard to replace?
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06-04-2018, 07:34 AM
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Rivet Master
1969 18' Caravel
Greenville
, whereEverIroam
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 1,412
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Not at all.
1. use a 1/8" or slightly smaller drill bit and drill out any remaining old rivet shank from the rivet hole
2. using a Pop rivet tool, insert a 1/8" Aluminum rivet into the hole.
3. Pop the rivet.
You can get these tools and rivets anywhere, from big box stores, to your local hardware store -- even WalMart carries them. The rivets come in various packages, usually available with white or bare Al heads. The tools often also come packaged with an assortment of pop rivets.
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06-04-2018, 07:40 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 25' Excella
2011 19' Flying Cloud
Santa Ynez
, California
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,185
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Just be carefull and hold the tool with your free hand to prevent recoil when the rivet "pops" otherwise you can leave an unintended mark next to your new rivet.
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06-04-2018, 09:38 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
MILAN
, Illinois
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Rivets
AND..... Be sure to use only Aluminum rivets! They also can come in steel and stainless steel. Hope this helps, Ed
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06-04-2018, 03:56 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 19' International
Tallahassee
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 938
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Thanks for the info.
I’ve got a rivet gun, the kind where you mash the handle to squeeze the rivet in place.
I’ll get some aluminum rivets, ⅛ inch, and have a go.
Thanks.
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06-04-2018, 04:00 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Make sure its an aluminum rivet with an aluminum mandrel...
Some have a steel (black looking) mandrel (the thing that looks like a nail) where you pull the rivet tight with the tool. What you want is a rivet where BOTH parts are aluminum-colored...(unless you like rust streaks....)
They make both, and we won't talk about how I know this is real easy to mess up...
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06-04-2018, 04:26 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 26' Overlander
Woodstock
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 8,525
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get the color matching ones.online if big box doesn't carry the correct color.
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06-04-2018, 05:56 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,346
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It's part of the Airstream life. Not a big deal.
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06-04-2018, 06:39 PM
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Overland Adventurer
1991 34' Excella
2009 34' Panamerica
Telluride
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,476
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Hmm, I would check for frame damage, a missing pop rivet can wreak havoc on the frame.
Only kidding, you could tow a million miles with no concequence.
Making pop
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06-04-2018, 08:20 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 25' International
Columbia
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 124
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Had the same thing happen recently.. 1/8” by what for the river sizing? I.e. what depth of the river is necessary? Any recommendations on a preferred tool also?
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06-05-2018, 10:03 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 25' International
Framingham
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 142
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AtomicNo13
Hmm, I would check for frame damage, a missing pop rivet can wreak havoc on the frame.
Only kidding, you could tow a million miles with no concequence.
Making pop ��
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True. But only with the proper WD hitch and large TV!!
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06-05-2018, 10:25 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 19' International
Tallahassee
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 938
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Are all of the interior rivets attached to a rib?
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06-05-2018, 10:49 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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This is one of those "it depends" type questions.
Most of them are supposed to be into a frame (rib) or longeron (horizontal rib). Some will be simply tying the edges of two sheets together at intervals It's possible to tell by pressing on the rivet vicinity and seeing if it feels set into something 'solid' without moving much under light pressure..
Other times, especially with internal pop rivets, it's a close or clean miss situation, but that's the nature of blind riveting...sometimes you miss structure.
Do be careful, remember that wiring and plumbing can be hidden between the inner and outer skins, and you only have about 1 1/2 inch space between inner and outer MAX. Use short, sharp bits and limit drill bit penetration to 1/2 inch or less with a drill stop--to help prevent screwing hidden stuff up, or punching through the exterior...
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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06-05-2018, 11:09 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2011 23' FB Flying Cloud
2008 19' Safari SE
Brossard
, Quebec
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 91
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Domed multi grip rivet
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhereStream
After banging around on some rough roads (Thanks, Tennessee) we got home to find an interior rivet had given up the ghost.
Are these hard to replace?
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Airstream use the "Multi Grip" type rivet inside their travel trailer.
Airstream part number is 330155.
I paid 22 cents (Can dollar) per rivet.
Picture of these attached.
Michel
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06-05-2018, 01:33 PM
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Stay Calm and Stream On
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Palm Springs
, California
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 313
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I find this thread very riveting.
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06-05-2018, 01:38 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Rimshot!!!
Folks, try the veal, HHPJ will be here all week...
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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10-21-2018, 07:41 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 19' International
Tallahassee
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 938
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Here's an update. I sent a message to someone at the Airstream hive in Ohio. He said he'd send me a few of the rivets Airstream uses, and he did (about half a dozen). Thanks, Airstream guy.
I went out this morning to plug the rivet hole, but ... the old rivet is still holding its ground, down in there. I was hoping it had given loose.
I know I need to drill it out, but dang, gut check ... I hate the idea of using "drill" and "Airstream" in the same sentence.
So, if I have this right, I get a drill bit no larger, and perhaps a shade skinnier, than the rivet, tape a mark on the bit so I know when deep enough (how deep? I'm guessing, I guess), then hold my breath and drill it out.
Got that right?
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10-21-2018, 08:29 AM
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diesel maniac
Airstream - Other
Tucson
, AZ
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 2,550
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WhereStream
So, if I have this right, I get a drill bit no larger, and perhaps a shade skinnier, than the rivet, tape a mark on the bit so I know when deep enough (how deep? I'm guessing, I guess), then hold my breath and drill it out.
Got that right?
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That sounds right....Alternatively I have had great success drilling out rivets with a small step bit. Many times when you punch thru with a regular bit it will pull itself in before you can stop it and you can go deeper than you had intended. The step bit only lets the tip punch thru.
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10-21-2018, 12:05 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2009 25' FB Flying Cloud
1973 31' Sovereign
Mt Angel
, Oregon
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 362
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This thread reminded me of my own rivet problem. Just got it fixed!!
Anyhow, if you take the cap from a spray can and drill thru it dead center you can make your own combo depth stop and drill filing capture device. If you don't have a spray can you can cut off the bottom of a 1 or 2 liter plastic pop bottle, which, usually being clear, you can see thru for drilling out those pesky overhead holes.
Here's a pic:
Drill away my friends!!
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10-22-2018, 07:43 AM
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Rivet Master
1987 32' Excella
Nepean
, Ontario
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,414
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I bought this tool for removing rivets -ntage Trailer Supplyi
https://www.vintagetrailersupply.com...-p/vts-497.htm
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