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Old 05-17-2009, 02:58 PM   #15
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So then the "sharks" out there actively looking for "prey" will get first dibs. That hardly seems fair. The whole point is to level the playing field, so all have equal opportunity.
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Old 05-17-2009, 03:33 PM   #16
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The forums administration has spoken, why do you continue beating a dead horse?
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No, I think it's a way to defeat the sharks. If you need a soapdish for a 1976 Overlander, you follow the threads that cover mid 70's bathrooms, and someday one will turn up.

If you list things in a separate subforum, the sharks will watch just that forum like a hawk, and they will cherrypick all the goodies.

I've given away my share of stuff. I've even had people ask for stuff before it was taken out. I think keeping the free stuff buried where only those who follow the individual threads can find it is the fairest way.
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Another one lost

Here's another one that got "lost in the shuffle" because it wasn't centrally located good useable parts probably went to the landfill.

There were no posts.

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Old 05-17-2009, 04:02 PM   #19
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Populating a subforum with freebie parts threads has a finite lifetime until the products are either distributed or tossed. MARYW, your mentioned thread didn't even offer anything until post 9 -- that happens a lot and then is too late to relocate to a 'free' subforum. And freebie threads are a small part of the enthusiast marketplace where items are sought or sold cheaply.

Having been an Argosy owner, I'd naturally post an Argosy thread if I was looking for parts. How should threads be handled for affordable parts we "share" for way less than retail? 6 weeks ago I shipped off a like-new Jordan controller sold at a major discount (not a freebie). Observing who wanted this was a matter of reading the subset of threads in which I have a natural interest. Hookups happen. Keep your eyes on balrgn threads!

It doesn't make a lot of sense to archiving and perhaps later discovery to move threads out of their natural subforum just because a charitable act is involved. Another idea that is underused -- 'tag' your thread when you start it.
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Believe me -- it would show up in our tag cloud pretty fast! http://www.airforums.com/forums/tags/ Size of the tag depends on on how often it is mentioned. PM me the URL of freebie threads if you'd like to seed this. MARYW - I went back and edited your rockguard thread to include tags 'free' and 'rockguard.'

It is not a dead horse, so far the yes votes are winning, and Bob the administrator did not give it the axe as of yet. Hence his writing "PM me the URL of freebie threads if you'd like to seed this", in his post.

What I'd like to know is why you are so against this. What's your motive? It sounds like a bit of fear mongering propaganda to me. You spend just as much time posting a negative opposing view.

It seems to me that we should just agree to disagree and leave it at that. Let other members have a chance to share their thoughts on the subject. Let's try and stick to the documented trail of facts regarding members not being able to find the "free" threads, without having to go on a time consuming hunt for them.

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Here's another one that got "lost in the shuffle" because it wasn't centrally located good useable parts probably went to the landfill.

There were no posts.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f39/...-or-51284.html
Actually those probably went to a landfill because no one wanted 30 year old couch cushions. Most restorations involve new foam and fabric.
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It is not a dead horse, so far the yes votes are winning, and Bob the administrator did not give it the axe as of yet. Hence his writing "PM me the URL of freebie threads if you'd like to seed this", in his post.

What I'd like to know is why you are so against this. What's your motive? It sounds like a bit of fear mongering propaganda to me. You spend just as much time posting a negative opposing view.

It seems to me that we should just agree to disagree and leave it at that. Let other members have a chance to share their thoughts on the subject. Let's try and stick to the documented trail of facts regarding members not being able to find the "free" threads, without having to go on a time consuming hunt for them.

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Mary - we move very cautiously when adding new section to the forum. Some things we consider are the true need for the section, whether or not another area of the forum will do instead, how much maintenance will be required by moderators to keep a section healthy and what the long term impact on the forum will be.

Currently this site has over 47,000 threads on various topics and keeping information organized is a daunting undertaking. Years ago we used discussion threads for for sale and wanted ads. Once the item was sold, a moderator had to close the thread and we had chronic trouble with folks posting their items and then not posting updates. To avoid this and the hundreds of outdated threads, we added a classifieds section. There is a category for parts either for sale, for free and wanted. I encourage you to use the classifieds as this was their intended purpose.
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If we had a dedicated central sub-forum category for these, more folks would have access to them without having to wade through the endless threads to find them.
We do have a dedicated sub-forum for those items. It is called "the classified section".
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We do have a dedicated sub-forum for those items. It is called "the classified section".
That's the problem, members are posting the items within threads, not in the classifieds. Or as Canoestream suggested tagging threads/posts, so people can find the information they need whether it's a free item or just info on a AS system/mechanical issue, etc.

Maybe the answer to more than one problem would be to post a informational thread with a "sticky" on the main page with a link to the help page regarding using tags. This would benefit all members, so that the search feature would be more efficient. Also to remember to post the "free" items in the classifieds, where it's easier for those who need them to find them.

My original intent for this was to streamline things and encourage the idea of helping thy neighbor in the process.
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Old 05-17-2009, 07:29 PM   #24
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or maybe when you notice someone needs something you have, you can PM them and say "hey I have what you need. Can you send me your mailing address" I have done this countless times and it has happened to me. It is not only cool to get something free, but to have it come from someone you do not know, that makes it very killer. It creates strong bonds. It is called Airstream Spirit. Unfortunately the system you are proposing will have it all cleared out right away.

And now I want to thank :Sam, you helped me big time. Ed, my eyebrow is complete due to you. Rob, how many things have you given me? wow a lot. Marc, thanks brother. Scott, I am putting it on this week. Steve... you are my main man. Rick, it was so kind of you. John, my fridge works great due to you. Ken, I didn't need it and passed it on. Robert, thanks for the offer. Scott, thanks for your gift. If I forgot you, sorry and thanks a ton.

And who ever it was that sent me the 285 water decals without a note or return address, or anything... thank you so much. I am touched beyond belief. Wish I knew who you are, but your gift was so appreciated. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, thank you

If I sent you something, it was my honor and I am glad I could help.

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remember to post the "free" items in the classifieds, where it's easier for those who need them to find them.
Sounds like that about sums it up.

I would not encourage putting give away items in a post in the forum. I did that on a car forum about four years ago and every summer I get emails from people who want to get the luggage rack I took off a car I don't even own anymore. Nobody notices the post is four years old when they respond.
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Mary,

You need to chill, to some of us, your posts are staring to sound vicious.

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Mary, pardon me but I've been outside all day. Got to make hay in the yard before the skeeters & gnats come out. Adding tags is something that thread starters can do. It offers a different alternative to any of several ways to search the forums.

Copy and paste the following in a Google search line: "cheap or free" site:www.airforums.com

That search brings up 189 Google hits for BLM-type boondocking in many states of the nation. "cheap or free" is a common thread title by which our rugged boondocking members find ideas. Now, you'd find most of those "cheap or free" threads in the boondocking subforum. It would throw the established system on its head to separate free camping from the boondocking area. That's going to be my point about parts -- free, reasonably priced or full retail. There's a system here that works.

If somebody takes out a crank roof vent to replace with a Fantastic Fan, the poor quality crank roof vents probably would be easy to let go for free. But one more likely would go to the "Roof vents, skylights & fans" subforum to find such offerings. That's going to be the stable, predictable system I will continue to support.
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Hello all,

This has obviously touched a nerve in some. Life would be boring without opposing points of view. It will all be worth it in the end, if my suggestion bought to the forefront that members need to post their free items on one place "the classifieds". And that using tags is vital to the forums efficiency, for when others need to do a search. All ideas don't always play out like you imagined them, sometimes they work out in a new better way.

Thank you to all who are sharing their views, I do really appreciate your input.

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