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Old 10-03-2010, 11:01 AM   #15
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The trailer is yours to do with as you wish and I wish well in your endever, but bare in mind the below.

I agree with Overlander64, your star chief was made to handle this size trailer, and I believe that if you finished this in its current lenght you will be happy with the 2 as companions.
1) consider living space, gutted it looks like you have more than you need but once all the interior is added bath and all you will find that this trailer will shorter than you think.
2) if you are going to shorten this one is that you will have to move the axle to get center balance once you have cut out the portion you are doing away with this may cause frame issues.
3) also you have the fact of width, I may be incorrect but it looks as if the trailer gets wider in the center and the end caps may not fit properly as you move them back and the body gets wider.
Just a few other things to consider in your endeaver.

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Old 10-03-2010, 01:01 PM   #16
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I think Sarge has a good point. It looks big empty, but gets smaller with stuff in it. Maybe you've done this, but if not, go to a dealer and see how short and medium ones feel.

Dave and Sarge have pointed out problems with shortening because of the 2 cuts needed and possible frame issues. Seems to me shortening requires expert metalworking skills. If you have them, great. If not, serious training may be necessary.

Having now looked up Star Chiefs, '54 had the chrome lines on the hood and trunk, '55 and '56 has 2 on the hood and none on the trunk, and '57 had none. I remember as a teenager I felt this was the singular thing that had distinguished Pontiacs. This may be off the point, but I see the Pontiac and trailer as a set.

Photos are of Catalina (hardtop conv.) Star Chiefs for '57 and '54. And I found the '57 pulling an Airstream. This photo was taken last year.

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Old 10-03-2010, 06:48 PM   #17
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Gene, I have attached a few pictures of my Pontiac. I still have some stainless trim to polish and attach and front bumper caps and front park lights. Kirk
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Old 10-04-2010, 09:41 AM   #18
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Gene, I have attached a few pictures of my Pontiac.
Looks good Kirk. The '54 is forever locked in my mind as one of the snazziest cars my father ever bought, but the '57 looks nice too. By then Dad had bought a '56 Lincoln the size of Rhode Is.

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Old 10-05-2010, 06:56 AM   #19
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Please excuse my previous comment on the look of a ten foot trailer.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f36/...eam-31076.html
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Old 10-06-2010, 11:52 AM   #20
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Thank you all for your posts. After a lot of thought and reading your comments I have decided against shortening the trailer. I do want to use the trailer when it is finished so the room will be good. I have been sorting through posts and doing a lot of research. I hope I can learn to use the search tool better. I use the Diesel Truck Resource Forum and have a lot better luck with that search. Thank you all for your input. Kirk T.
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Old 10-06-2010, 12:05 PM   #21
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Kirk T - I like it!

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Old 10-06-2010, 12:20 PM   #22
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Try using the google search. It's the second one down from the top on the search tool.
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Old 10-06-2010, 12:51 PM   #23
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Hey thanks! Does the Google search search only within the forum?
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Old 10-06-2010, 01:14 PM   #24
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You get results from outside also.
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Old 10-06-2010, 01:55 PM   #25
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Kirk,

The car is beautiful and you are going to end up with a striking combination when you finish the trailer!
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Do yourself a favor, sell it and buy a shorter trailer. Save a lot of work and money, as well as saving a rare trailer.

Or, rebuild it as is. They towed them with cars like yours back in the fifties. Rebuild it as new, leave out all the heavy accessories and you will be in business. If you can resist the urge to add weight it will tow as easily as an 18 footer.
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Your car will have no problem with that trailer. The whole point to an aerodynamic trailer is that weight considerations are not relevant compared to a square box. You can easily run that rig anywhere you'd take the car solo. Plus, the car will not be overshadowed by the trailer as one might think. They'll both get second, third and fourth takes. A really, really cool rolling museum exhibit.

Do some research on hitch receiver blueprints. Also, CAN AM RV may be of some help per same. I would reach out to other GM/Pontiac owners of that era. Someone may well already have what you need in this regard "stored in the attic" as much work was DIY for the era. Have a look at old pics of REESE Dual Cam set-ups, they would be complementary in age & appearance.

I bought springs for my car (Chrysler) from EATON DETROIT and upgraded to HD w/AC for trailer-like loads. You'll find everything you DON'T like about the steering and shock absorbers once towing. I believe that's about it.

I see no need to shorten. That trailer -- brand new -- was likely to have been behind a car like yours. The automatic transmission (lacking a true "Park" function) was one of the deficiencies no one missed in later years. Same for 4-whl drum brakes. Neither is a concern with that trailer beyond what you are already comfortable with solo. A set of rubber wheel chocks (truck size) for both vehicles is recommended.

By the late 1960's both ATF and PSF coolers were becoming standard Tow Package parts; I'd add MAGNEFINE filters to both.

What is the rear gear set ratio? The empty scaled weight?

Very, very nice looking Pontiac!! Great colors.

(As to searches, just post it here on this thread if you are not having luck. Such a fine old car and trailer -- alone -- excites interest. From a distance we aren't the ones involved in the details, but it may be that we can offer up a thread or three. I also post on DTR and find no problem with searches here by comparison, BUT this place is huge as trailers comprise auto, house, RV and associated problems. I grew up around trailers. Trucks are easy by comparison once we eliminate the drivetrain).

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