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Old 01-10-2008, 01:40 PM   #15
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Most of us have "been there and done that" - I'm sure that I do not remember ALL of the "stuff" I did +/- 40 years ago, just lucky to have (barely) survived - I won't even begin to list the "stupid stuff" in my learning experiences - heck, I'm lucky now to remember what I did yesterday.

I'm sure you will get a kick out of reviewing this thread 40 years from now!
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:47 PM   #16
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[as I've been reading I have noticed, some issues get addressed but never resolved in thread, so I'm going to do my best to link all my information here for anyone searching]

Here is a PDF i found on towing capacities. Its for another company, but could be useful for anyone looking at this information.
http://trailmanor.com/WebDocs/Campin...towratings.pdf

The current search is on for a E series van or an astro - The astro isn't listed here, but the 2005 model is listed at 5700lbs and the design hasn't been changed in over 20 years, so it might just work.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:53 PM   #17
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with a name like crush (it fits better than cursh), i know you can take a little jab herenthere....

take a good look at don's thread and his work here...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f36/...mbi-17925.html

he did a really fine job on this unit and handled almost all the work himself...

he's a great resource for ya and so is his other half, traveling as s-tardis...

it's gonna be alotta fun to see your picture essay!

carlos's threads make it look WAY too easy, he's some sort of magic man...

mere mortals have a little more trouble with this stuff...

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Old 01-10-2008, 01:54 PM   #18
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I caught the reply before edit.

Cursh,

I saw your reply, before you decided to go back and edit the response to my post.

I'll stick to what I said, "Learn the RIGHT way".

Even you said, your mech. told you it was not connected to anything of strengh. Did you tell them what you were going to tow? Yes, I know we all make dumb mistakes, but this one could have killed someone! Would you have had ulcers then? And when you decide to take your trip in Jan. you said you would "PM" first, please do (unless you have someone that knows what they are doing show how). If you would like to come to Virginia, I'll be happy to spend as must time as needed to show you the correct way.

I know you cannot change the past, only learn from it.

We are have a VAC middle of June in Virginia. Spend the time to come down(without the trailer) and ask as many questions as you like or go to the rally at P&S trailers in Ohio (middle of Sept) to learn.

Just don't want to see you or anyone else get hurt or killed over another dumb mistake!

I'll be happy to help, just ask.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:57 PM   #19
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I totally understand that - I just get hot headed. My mother should have told me to count to 15 instead of ten. (i generally realize the error of my wayspretty quickly though.)

Thanks for the pointers.

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with a name like crush, i know you can take a little jab herenthere....
yeah - I catch a lot of flack for about everything I do, I'm used to it.


*last question today. Its slow and I have internet.

So hardwood has been ruled out for the stated reasons, but is cracking through the floor with my water tank a bad idea?



The kitchen counter is right up on the axles - and the tank wouldn't be right up on the wall. - again, I'm asking because I dont know.
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Old 01-10-2008, 02:23 PM   #20
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...is cracking through the floor with my water tank a bad idea?
Bad idea? Yes!

You can put a tank below and a tank above and connect the two if you need to minimize either the interior height or the "hang" underneath.
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Old 01-10-2008, 02:41 PM   #21
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I found this link to tanks - these guys seem to have a ton slimmer sizes - I linked specifically to an 11 gallon that would fit in the toe area of the cupboards

11 Gallon Rectangular Poly Tank 35x19x4

and one that looks like it should fit un the belly pan quite nicely (I HAVE NOT MEASURED THIS YET)

18 Gallon Rectangular Poly Tank 40x18x6
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tanks

size matters and is a personal preference based on camping locations and need...

i'd want 30-40 fresh, 10-15 black, and 25 for wash water...

or design it to utilize a 'blue boy' water tank outside, that is stored in the van...

-from your early schematic it appear the toilet is forward and the black tank at the rear?

this is gonna be a problem.

and where are the outside drain ports located?

fresh tanks above or below the floor can work because of the water pump but...

wash water above the floor really has limitations...

a black tank above the floor only works if it is directly under the crapper.

so your plumbing scheme needs a revision.

the 'fireplace' really should be in the largest open space (galley/dining/sitting)

folks IN the bed have bedding and each other for warmth

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Old 01-10-2008, 03:06 PM   #23
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Cursh,

Karma to you for two things:

1. Love at first sight.

2. Courage to expose a dumb move and maybe help someone else avoid taking too many shortcuts.

Have a great time--you will miss eating, sleeping, and maybe even reduce time with women (small chance of this happening, I know), but you will love it.

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Old 01-10-2008, 03:07 PM   #24
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so - I took the advice here and revised my floor plan.

The red bar next to the loft represents the bed space I am losing.

I like it a lot better. I might end up being able to get light into the loft from the side windows. (morning sunlight makes ben a happier person)



All I loose is about 4" on the bed and dinette. I think this is going to make the dinette very uncomfortable as a second bed, but I doubt anyone will ever sleep there except my friends who are just as happy on a couch or a floor.

Does anyone have any concept on putting in some sort of skylighting? I really do want morning sunlight if at all possible, but can't think of a way of doing it without destroying the exterior feel of the airstream. (I have a sketch with port holes, but its kinda "off" looking.


Of course they would move to the front, making this entire thing look like a catipillar - which I haven't decided if I would like or not yet (that sketch had an underlay because I wasn't doing a good job of capturing the exterior)



(these are all from "scratch" (literally)) This is an idea of how the lofted section is going to work (and the feel I'm going for *bottom left*)



*edit*
looking at my floor plan and sketches I just noticed that I'm blocking out most of that window - which is less than desireable. I might be able to work something out though - Still early (haven't done anything but research)
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Old 01-10-2008, 03:07 PM   #25
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folks IN the bed have bedding and each other for warmth

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Since Max sleeps in the truck...you don't have anyone to geep you warm Joe.

I can see you adding that fireplace in the near future

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Old 01-10-2008, 03:11 PM   #26
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Cursh,

Have a great time--you will miss eating, sleeping, and maybe even reduce time with women (small chance of this happening, I know), but you will love it.

Zep

Haha - funny thing just happend, Met a girl, fell in love, found out she was perfectly ok with bumming around the country in a silver bullet. (that and her self proclaimed passion for sundresses really sold me, as if I needed to be sold anything at all)

The nice (really terrible part) is that she is from my home town, and I will be lucky if I see her once a month between now and graduation. I'm spending all my free weekends working on the airstream until I graduate. - so my time with women has been drastically reduced. If only I could spend time on this thing after work, I would easily put in 3 hours a day weekdays
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so - I took the advice here and revised my floor plan...
nice revise.

a skylight or fantastic fan with opaque lid will give you extra light...

just dont' poke more holes in the end caps, use the roof section.

neither of these will ruin the roofline, and should open for air circulation.

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hey steve i'm sure max doesn't want folks to know his sleeping arrangement...

so he's now planning to water your tire/wheel again soon...
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Old 01-10-2008, 03:25 PM   #28
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is adding windows a terrible idea

would I need to do any sort of structural enhancements? or would the window frame take care of that for me?

I think I would like some more windows (im a sucker for sunlight)
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