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Old 11-04-2011, 03:56 AM   #1
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Question Mounting the leveling indicator

I just took delivery of a 2005 Classic and the trailer leveling indicator was never mounted on the trailer . Before I drill holes in the sidewall could someone send a picture of where they mounted theirs ?
It would be very helpful.
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Old 11-04-2011, 05:25 AM   #2
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Don ,sorry I have no picture, but mine came mounted in the center under the front window. I like it there, tho most seem to be mounted closer to the street side corner under the window, so it could be viewed from the mirrow as you back in. I just like things centered or "balanced" when possible. Be sure to squirt a dab of parbond or the likes in each hole before inserting the screw.
I assume you are referring to the large Level Master. Good luck. I know how you feel about poking holes in the skin. John
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Old 11-04-2011, 07:24 AM   #3
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I just bought two clinometers from WalMart. Silver plastic, and they come with a semi-permanent adhesive backing. No holes required.

Just a thought.
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Attaching a level under the front window only tells me that I've been lucky enough to find a level campsite driveway. The rest of the time I've still gotta get out of the truck to put leveling blocks down.

I've always used a small bubble level on my A-frame right in front of the jack. I've been very happy with the results. One of these guys down at the bottom of this post.

Put it on with a bit of construction adhesive if you want. This is right there when you are adjusting the fore-and-aft level. I don't want to work with a 2nd level on the side of trailer -- seems like an awkward process doing it that way.

The little bubble levels on the top of some tongue jacks seem prone to too much error IMO. They've got set screws so you can adjust them but there is very little holding it true over the long run. Taking the level directly on the frame has been pretty foolproof -- and I sure need that!
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Old 11-04-2011, 09:25 AM   #5
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Leveling front to rear is easy because you have the electric tongue jack...it's the left to right that causes me to get out, check, get back in, move, get out, check, etc. I have the large level in the center under the window, but can't see it from the mirror.

If anyone has a way of leveling left to right from the driver's seat, I sure would like to hear about it.
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Well, in Taos this bigazz Class A with a lot of antennas on top towing a pickup truck pulled up next to us, and the driver must have pushed a button or something inside but four hydraulic rams came down to the pavement and hey presto it was done.
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When I purchased our '77 it had those terrible little stick on levels on the curbside for front to back and on the nose for side to side. I didnt trust them little buggers so I backed them up with a 2 ft level. YEP just as I thought they were wrong. I verified on the galley counter and the top of the fridge. On close inspection I found that the adhesive which there were held to the body with was very flexiable making them inaccurate.
So I purchase a LEVEL MASTER direct from the company and like sandlapper said its mounted on the nose under the front window. Mine already had the holes in the body and I just used them.I wondered what those holes were for and then upon seeing a friends 31 ft Excella witha LEVEL MASTER on the nose I realized what the holes were for.
Just remember when drilling holes to put a drill stop on the bit to keep from damaging anything beyond the skin.
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Steve that little convience "leveling from the drivers seat" comes at a price. 150 to 200 k and you can do it from the drivers seat with a button.
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Steve that little convience "leveling from the drivers seat" comes at a price. 150 to 200 k and you can do it from the drivers seat with a button.
I hear ya Mike, but don't want a motorhome. All it would take to make me happy is some way of seeing from the drivers seat if the trailer is level, side to side. Don't mind leveling it, but sometimes if you just move the trailer over a foot or so, it will be level.
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I know we've had a thread asking about putting automatic hydraulic levelers on an Airstream trailer. Too bad the frame couldn't take it. Or else the load capacity would get knocked down to the 50-75 pound range...

It's always interesting seeing a moho with wheels off the ground after leveling.
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I hear ya Mike, but don't want a motorhome. All it would take to make me happy is some way of seeing from the drivers seat if the trailer is level, side to side. Don't mind leveling it, but sometimes if you just move the trailer over a foot or so, it will be level.
Well, heck, I can help ya there. I've been accused of being a McGyver accolyte, BUT if you wanted quick and simple, a ten foot length of clear tubing from the hardware store, almost filled with water and hung in a big U shape across the front of the trailer, would do it. The levels of water in each half of the U shape's upright portions will be absolutely level. The long baseline between the tubes means the equivalent of a really big level, i.e. dead on accurate. You'd just have to relate that to a horizontal reference on the trailer. Window edge, line of rivets, whatever. Could do this in thirty seconds. Materials: One ten foot length of tubing, two pieces of duct tape, a half cup of water. Total cost: $ 3. (ten ft. at .30 per foot). It wouldn't matter where you stuck it, come to think of it. The water will always be level. could drape it between two of the cheapo little suction cups. Can see it from any of the mirrors on the T.V. Need more contrast for the liquid? Use a can of Coke.

And the tubing is useful for other stuff, like stealing gas. Uh....I mean siphoning, of course.

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Well, heck, I can help ya there. I've been accused of being a McGyver accolyte, BUT if you wanted quick and simple, a ten foot length of clear tubing from the hardware store, almost filled with water and hung in a big U shape across the front of the trailer, would do it. The levels of water in each half of the U shape's upright portions will be absolutely level. The long baseline between the tubes means the equivalent of a really big level, i.e. dead on accurate. You'd just have to relate that to a horizontal reference on the trailer. Window edge, line of rivets, whatever. Could do this in thirty seconds. Materials: One ten foot length of tubing, two pieces of duct tape, a half cup of water. Total cost: $ 3. (ten ft. at .30 per foot). It wouldn't matter where you stuck it, come to think of it. The water will always be level. could drape it between two of the cheapo little suction cups. Can see it from any of the mirrors on the T.V. Need more contrast for the liquid? Use a can of Coke.

And the tubing is useful for other stuff, like stealing gas. Uh....I mean siphoning, of course.

I LIKE IT! Thanks Gringo.
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For installing things where you don't want to put holes in skin or plastic, I have had excellent results with the 3M double sided RED mounting tape. It is much much stronger than the foam tape, and is rated indoor/outdoor. It can be removed, but that is not easy, although I have had no damage in removal.

I have used it on my Jeep Grand Cherokee to mount the brake controller on the plastic underdash, where I did not want to leave holes. I put it on my 98, removed it and put it on the '01 and last month moved it again to the '12. Each time I was left with a nice original plastic underdash, and the controller was more flush with the surface than if I had used the metal mounting brackets. I just put the tape on the back of the controller, and stuck it to the dash. It was very solid.

I am sure it would work with the level which is the subject of this thread. Just be sure to get the 3M brand RED heavy duty mounting tape. ACE and other hardware stores carry it, I think wally world too.
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I LIKE IT! Thanks Gringo.
You're welcome. In thinking a bit more, I am leaning toward a piece of tubing with liquid in it, formed into a circle ( anything elliptical) and held together with a plastic connector. Put two of the little clear plastic suction cups with hooks on them on the trailer above the window glass. You can eyeball the level of the liquid and line that up with the upper edge of the window easily.Hang the partially filled hoop on the two hooks. Nothing sticks to the trailer, and unlike the level that was the original subject of this thread, you can see this one in your rear view mirror.
use the smallest diameter clear tubing that you can see from your mirror, to keep the weight of the liquid down. The connector that forms the tubing into a circle will keep stuff from falling apart or draining if you drop it. the connector has to be hollow, of course.
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Our 2011 International came with a circular spirit level thing on top of the electric jack. After the fuse went and I had to hand crank the jack, I unscrewed the level indicator not realising that I didn't have to, as the cap it was mounted in can be removed by just twisting it. Putting it all back together again I saw that the three screws I'd removed were all sprung and that I'd have to recalibrate the level somehow and, not having any level surfaces on which to settle the trailer I put that job on hold. Subsequently we spent all season just working by eye and do you know what? We've have no real problems getting things sufficiently level. Our acid test is to open the bathroom and shower doors; if they don't move then we're level enough.
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