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Old 06-18-2014, 01:20 PM   #57
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You might want to rig up a leaf blower to pressurize the trailer then soap it down, you will find the leaks. I was not able to find the leaks in my trailer till I pulled some inner skins and sat out there in a rain storm. Now I think more like water does and have a little better feel for how water gets in. If you see a crack that has no sealant then seal it. Most of the light fixtures are sealed where the wires go through the shell. Many times all you need to do is remove the fixture and check to see that the wires are sealed well. I am not sure what they used now but on mine they used some gum putty stuff on all the internal seams and penetrations. This stuff is not real strong or flexible so it cracks at stress points. I don't have any leaks in lap joints and those seem to be sealed pretty well. Sealing them can be unsightly as well. Put some sealant under screw heads between the fixture and skin (Parbond) also the wires if need be. Anything that has a plastic flange will leak and crack and rot eventually. This is one reason I don't think plastic fantastic fans are a good thing. The will leak and the plastic will eventually fall apart. I love the all metal frame and doors on my vents.

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Old 06-19-2014, 07:41 AM   #58
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The other day while trying to find some place to service my wheel bearings I stopped at an SOB dealership that is only a couple of miles from my house. While there another customer came in with complaints of leaks in his new $100k fifth wheel. The service manager told him that "No problem that can not be found and fixed. They had a pressurized leak test room." I followed them out to the shop and sure enough they did have one. It looked like a huge paint room. The customer made an appointment to bring his trailer in for testing. Because this complaint seems so common my opinion is that every Airstream dealership should be required by Thor/Airstream to have such a testing facility. New owners should not have to drive long distances to the mother ship to have this done.
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Old 06-19-2014, 08:37 AM   #59
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There used to be a company that would rent pressure testing equipment. Don't remember who. Try googlefu'ing it.

I tried jury-rigging a pressure test on my S/O a couple years ago, using a large industrial grade shop dust-collection system fan. IIRC it was rated +10wc static.

I boarded off the rear boot hatch, and duct taped the fan housing directly to it (no tubing or extra friction). Fired it up, then hosed down the slide opening, door, and front windows with soapy water.
Either it was still perfectly water tight, or my system wasn't working. The wet spot on the floor next to the microwave makes me think the pressure test didn't work.

I'm no engineer, but I think leaf blowers are good with velocity pressure, not static ?
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Old 06-19-2014, 08:42 AM   #60
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some threads on homemade pressure testing; looks like somebody made it work with a leaf blower, after all:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f456...est-57333.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f456...est-75773.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f456...e-58462-2.html
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Old 06-19-2014, 11:36 AM   #61
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nice! I wonder if JC when I go will also do a leak test...

I am quite sure that the leak is from that storage door....but I suppose it is plausible that it could be also from another location....I hope not...I will be asking JC if it is advicable to bring up the flooring in the suspect area between now and my visit there next year and let is dry and put in a fix for the front door to keep water out...

If I can establish a new baseline of ALL DRY floors on the meter, then put newspaper in all storage compartments and continue to watch for moisture with the meter, then I can know that no further moisture is getting through....

But as it is, that spot will be positive for moisture for.....how long?

I have not been able to email JC, but plan to email those folks mentioned today and get the ball rolling...
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Old 06-19-2014, 11:40 AM   #62
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The other day while trying to find some place to service my wheel bearings I stopped at an SOB dealership that is only a couple of miles from my house. While there another customer came in with complaints of leaks in his new $100k fifth wheel. The service manager told him that "No problem that can not be found and fixed. They had a pressurized leak test room." I followed them out to the shop and sure enough they did have one. It looked like a huge paint room. The customer made an appointment to bring his trailer in for testing. Because this complaint seems so common my opinion is that every Airstream dealership should be required by Thor/Airstream to have such a testing facility. New owners should not have to drive long distances to the mother ship to have this done.

My wife and I discussed at length the potential headache of having warranty issues and that we have no dealer close by really to address such issues....and that we would just have to accept a trek or two up to JC.....it is what it is, but it is tough for two full time working parents with small kids.....

I do recall last year JC telling me that technically dandy RV over east of B-ham I think in anniston still lists as an approved service center although they no longer can sell AS's...but I got some feedback that I would be better off not bringing it there for repairs...
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Hi, PharmGeek; Just put the double "D" shaped weather seal all around the storage door like I did and be done with it. Airstream will just replace the useless gasket that your trailer was built with. I messed with the factory seal and could still easily push my door in almost one inch. Not good.
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:55 PM   #64
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That design is garbage - period - I will try your fix and leak test again with the garden hose this weekend
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Old 06-19-2014, 01:54 PM   #65
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There is new full service Airstream dealership in Florida. It is Dixie RV in Defuniak Springs, Florida.
Shorter drive from you than coming all the way over to Gulfport.
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If an SOB dealership has a leak pressure room, why not have them run your AS through it and note where the leaks are? Jim
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Old 06-19-2014, 03:32 PM   #67
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There is new full service Airstream dealership in Florida. It is Dixie RV in Defuniak Springs, Florida.
Shorter drive from you than coming all the way over to Gulfport.

1 hour difference...and I know foley better...although if defuniak have established great track record, then that is a possibility.

The reason either foley or defuniak would prove logistically difficult would be, because I would need to show up there on a weekday during business hours...which would mean missing one day of work to get there....then I would likely need to leave the trailer with them and come back another day requiring a second day of missed work....that sounds like no big deal, but the leave burns up quick...and while I am not entirely sure, if I cruise up to JC and plan 2 days off, I think I can get all my issues resolved in 2 days and it seems that for the most part the JC folks do a better job than the dealers do....

I am wondering if defuniak folks or foley could meet me at their facility really quick for a weekend drop off and a weekend pickup later and thus not burning any leave? I need to ask them. I guess that is a possibility....

I like the idea of the SOB leak test....but I wanna go by the book by what AS folks say within the warranty period?

Somehow the JC route seems more simple and overall maybe even less driving back and forth etc....but if the weekend drop off/pickup route is available that would be maybe attractive...
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Old 06-19-2014, 04:13 PM   #68
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I have found umpteen local RV leak detectives.

Just Google RV Sealtech testing (and your city/area).
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what does airstream mothership say about leak testing at such facilities? I would be nervous that it would void warranty in some way? beyond the warranty I would just do it? Is there risk associated with such a test? I would think not, but better to ask I suppose.
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I spoke to Ron at Foley..very helpful...he gave me Rick March email and I am going to email him all the info about all this....ald Ron already told me that if the time comes, he could meet me on a weekend for a drop off and pickup...

I advised foley that it may be a good idea to take all new trailers on their lot with this door design and do 2 things: 1) at night turn on the light in that storage compartment and see if light shows through (I bet 20 bucks most will of this type/size of door) and 2) hose it down for 5 min with newspaper inside of it to see if it will leak.

I bet that the leak test at JC does not directly spray that area with the nozzles in that facility because there is a garage door there for the entrance.....thus never getting a positive on this leak test...conjecture I know, but worth asking.
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