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06-25-2019, 08:43 AM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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MicroAir Easy start failure
My MicroAir Easy start has failed and I cannot get anyone to answer the phone.
Anyone else have trouble getting in touch with there tech support?
Here’s the story......
My MicroAir 364 has been install for just over a year and has worked great. Yesterday my compressor would come on and run for a very short time then turn off. It was 96 degrees so as a last ditch effort to save the trip I climbed up on the roof and uninstalled the MicroAir and the AC has worked perfectly for over 12 hours.
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06-25-2019, 09:41 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,656
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Troubleshooting guide here
https://www.microair.net/collections...nt=30176048267
You describe, perhaps, what they cover in this document.
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06-25-2019, 11:31 AM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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Can’t find anything in the self help section.
Still not able to get anyone to answer the phone. I hope everything is ok there
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06-25-2019, 04:18 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 23' International
Hurst
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,495
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMFL
< snip > ... as a last ditch effort to save the trip I climbed up on the roof and uninstalled the MicroAir and the AC has worked perfectly for over 12 hours.
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Dang, that stinks! I wonder what failed.
I need to "be prepared" for this kind of failure... right now, I have no idea how to "uninstall" the MicroAir. I need to dig up the wiring diagrams, just in case.
Please keep us all posted as this story unfolds.
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06-25-2019, 04:52 PM
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Site Team
2017 30' International
Broomfield
, Colorado
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,555
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Perhaps the internal start capacitor failed in the EasyStart? That is easily replaced if you open up the case... they do fail... just a thought.
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06-25-2019, 05:17 PM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
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Posts: 4,516
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wulfraat
Perhaps the internal start capacitor failed in the EasyStart? That is easily replaced if you open up the case... they do fail... just a thought.
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Wulf
That looks like what has happened. It smells like it let the smoke out of it.
Anywho it’s covered under warranty so I’m just trying to get someone to call me back from MicroAir. I’ve left a message and sent email.
We have AC working with it uninstalled so no disruption to our trip this week in the 100 degree Alabama heat.
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06-25-2019, 05:20 PM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RFP
Dang, that stinks! I wonder what failed.
I need to "be prepared" for this kind of failure... right now, I have no idea how to "uninstall" the MicroAir. I need to dig up the wiring diagrams, just in case.
Please keep us all posted as this story unfolds.
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Fortunately I used blade connectors when I installed the MicroAir so all I had to do was unplug it and replay on the factory start capacitor.
I will post all results here.
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06-25-2019, 05:21 PM
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The Aluminum Tent 3
2014 23' Flying Cloud
Park City
, Utah
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 2,157
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RFP
Dang, that stinks! I wonder what failed.
I need to "be prepared" for this kind of failure... right now, I have no idea how to "uninstall" the MicroAir. I need to dig up the wiring diagrams, just in case.
Please keep us all posted as this story unfolds.
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No kidding! I kept the bits and pieces in a baggy from mine, but going 'backwards' and putting them back in would be a headscratcher for me. Glad you got it figured out and have cool air Ronnie!
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06-25-2019, 05:32 PM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pcskier
No kidding! I kept the bits and pieces in a baggy from mine, but going 'backwards' and putting them back in would be a headscratcher for me. Glad you got it figured out and have cool air Ronnie!
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You guys are over thinking it.
It’s super easy to uninstall
When you unplug the MicroAir unit you have one wire, the White from the compressor (was hooked to Micro air brown) that plugs in the the “C” common on the Run Cap and then there are two wires from the factory start cap that have to plug back up to the Run Cap. “Red” connects to HERM and “White” connects to Common on Run cap
Hardest part about the whole thing was finding a way to get on the roof to do the work.
Fortunately the camp ground had a 10’ ladder and were willing to loan it to me and allow me to work on my unit in the camp site.
And the fact that all this work created quite an audience so I was kinda working under pressure with lots of “helpful” suggestions...... from the peanut gallery.
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06-25-2019, 06:15 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 23' Flying Cloud
Copper Hill
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 433
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Wow! Ronnie nice work, but I got to say this doesn’t surprise me. I’ve read about your work. Heck if I installed the easy start yesterday I could not reverse it the next day by memory! I would still need the instructions.
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06-25-2019, 06:20 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 28' Flying Cloud
2018 33' Classic
Cumming
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 518
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I had MicroAir install mine at 2018 Alumalina. The first time I started that AC this spring, the fan would run but not the compressor. Turns out they mis-wired the installation and my dealer had to fix. MicroAir paid my dealer.
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06-25-2019, 08:20 PM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeltaRon
I had MicroAir install mine at 2018 Alumalina. The first time I started that AC this spring, the fan would run but not the compressor. Turns out they mis-wired the installation and my dealer had to fix. MicroAir paid my dealer.
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If mine were a new install I would not have questioned it being wired wrong. Heck we are all human, but mine worked flawlessly for just over a year before it gave up the ghost.
It should be covered under warranty.
As a testament to MicroAir I have yet to find another person who has had a failure.
Has anyone ever had this problem....
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06-25-2019, 08:28 PM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
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Heck I’m just curious if anyone has ever had one fail.
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06-25-2019, 08:45 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 28' Flying Cloud
Central
, Canada
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,082
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Just tagging in here. Did you ever get anyone from Micro air to call you back?
Cheers
Doug
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06-25-2019, 08:52 PM
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Rivet Master
1958 26' Overlander
Battle Ground
, Washington
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 871
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GMFL: I had a similar situation last summer, when we had a high 90's day and the compressor would start and then shut down. After several tries in cooler weather the compressor wouldn't start at all. Upon inspection I found the capacitor in Micro-Air's unit has a reset button. Pushed the button in and it's been fine so far. No more days since then in high 90's. Bought a spare capacitor from Micro-Air just in case.
In case you look at there website they show a capacitor for the 366. Farther down the page is a list of capacitors and I found a match to the one in my unit:
88-106MFD/330V (-118-X00)
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06-25-2019, 09:00 PM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcticfox
Just tagging in here. Did you ever get anyone from Micro air to call you back?
Cheers
Doug
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Not yet. I emailed Kevin tonight.
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06-25-2019, 09:01 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 28' Flying Cloud
Central
, Canada
Join Date: Mar 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMFL
Not yet. I emailed Kevin tonight.
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I sent you a PM......
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06-25-2019, 09:05 PM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 57Vintage
GMFL: I had a similar situation last summer, when we had a high 90's day and the compressor would start and then shut down. After several tries in cooler weather the compressor wouldn't start at all. Upon inspection I found the capacitor in Micro-Air's unit has a reset button. Pushed the button in and it's been fine so far. No more days since then in high 90's. Bought a spare capacitor from Micro-Air just in case.
In case you look at there website they show a capacitor for the 366. Farther down the page is a list of capacitors and I found a match to the one in my unit:
88-106MFD/330V (-118-X00)
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I saw that button and it was out. I pushed it in after I had it uninstalled and down on the ground. I thought that might indicate the CAP was bad but I’m not that smart. After I uninstalled all is working great. I’ll have to let the MicroAir guy sort out the problem with the unit.
I guess next on the to buy list will be an extra CAP and one of those collapsing ladders to take on the road with me.
( WOW collapsing and ladder in the same sentence is BAD)
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06-25-2019, 09:14 PM
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The Aluminum Tent 3
2014 23' Flying Cloud
Park City
, Utah
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 2,157
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I was just thinking, knowing how to reverse the install is one thing...but having the old parts on hand is another? I guess you kept yours in your kit? Mine are stored in my garage. Maybe a good idea to put in my tool bag in the trailer. I think there is a capacitor and some other small part? Good thing you had yours with you in any case.
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06-25-2019, 09:24 PM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pcskier
I was just thinking, knowing how to reverse the install is one thing...but having the old parts on hand is another? I guess you kept yours in your kit? Mine are stored in my garage. Maybe a good idea to put in my tool bag in the trailer. I think there is a capacitor and some other small part? Good thing you had yours with you in any case.
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I never removed the old parts from inside the electric enclosure, just disconnected it and taped up wire ends.
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