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Old 07-26-2013, 01:01 PM   #29
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Looking for a Restoration Project - Need Advice

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Thanks to both of you. So let me ask this - assuming that I'm doing a shell-off restoration or a complete gutting of the interior of a trailer....

Can I begin with any 31-34' Airstream, regardless of floor model, or should I be looking only for rear bedroom models? I don't know if the window and door structure is different for the center bath vs. rear bath models.
As with so many things Airstream, and particularly with Vintage Airstreams, there isn't one definitive answer to your question. Part of the answer is in just how Vintage the trailer in consideration might be . . . as there were differences from one year to the next as well as within models of any given year.
  • During the 1970s, the rear bedroom Sovereigns would have had a single, centered rear window. Beginning sometime in the early 1980s, the rear bedroom Sovereigns may have the Panoramic rear windows with deep wrap wing windows.
  • The side window arrangement is nearly always different when comparing the same year and model of Sovereign when one trailer is rear bedroom and the other is rear bathroom.
I suspect that a rear bedroom Sovereign with the single centered rear window would likely be the easiest floorplan to adapt to your desired new layout with the same likely being true for the 34' Airstream trailers as well.

Good luck with your investigation!

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Old 07-27-2013, 11:08 AM   #30
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Anyone recognize what this is?
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Old 07-27-2013, 11:21 AM   #31
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Anyone recognize what this is?
It looks like a sovereign maybe a 28'
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What year? The current owner says 1976.
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Old 07-27-2013, 03:10 PM   #33
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Could be '76. Needs axles, by the look of the photos.

But "don't ask for more photos"? And no ownership? Personally, I would lose interest pretty quick for just the shell, and that kind of attitude.

Check with Min of Trans to see what is involved in getting a new ownership. Bet it's not easy...

PS: if you want to know the year for certain, get him to give you the serial number, and we can look it up for you.
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Thanks Aage. The price seems to good to be true..... I'll have a chat with her and find out what is going on.
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Old 07-27-2013, 11:49 PM   #35
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Several years ago I looked into buying an older (1970's) AS that the seller had as a cottage with a deck in a campground. The seller was an Ontario resident, but the campground was in Quebec. The seller said that he purchased it from someone who had it in the same c/g and that it was not licensed. I inquired what the process was at Ontario's MOT and was told that it required that the seller produce an affidavit attesting to his purchase - the cost of an affidavit ran about $300 then. From what I gathered, it was not a cookie-cutter type of deal - each case is considered on its own merits based on the documentation. Keep in mind that the Province wants to collect the sales tax. I (wisely) passed up that "deal".
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Alas, although I was able to trade emails with the owner, she claimed to have had over 30 calls....and the airstream ad was gone by the end of the day. Oh well, I don't think it was long enough anyway.
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Hi,

OK - so I've been away for a while, but surfing craigslist and kijiji for a while. This airstream has come up locally. It is described as a "1970 Airstream International 31'". If they have the year right, it is a Sovereign.

In asking them about this, they advise that they started this as a restoration project. They regard this as gutted, but from what I can tell, there is still a fair bit of gutting to do. They advise this is towable, doesn't leak, but the floor where the bathroom needs 'a little bit' of welding.

I'm interested in a shell off restoration, and completely rebuilding an interior, replacing the insulation etc. so this seems to meet the bill. My aim is to build something custom, as I cannot find the layout I need in an airstream of that era.

In reviewing the photos, my main concern is that if the interior aluminum panelling has been removed, then I will be looking at fabricating new aluminumpanels. I'm not sure I want to do that.

So what red flags does this raise for you? What is a reasonable price for this in your view?

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Old 10-29-2013, 09:26 PM   #38
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Unless they are literally giving it away. I would look else where.
Are you dead set on something over 30'?
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Yes - I want to build a bunkhouse (me, my wife, and four little people) - which will require some innovative engineering....
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:43 PM   #40
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How is the rest of the exterior? Hard to tell, but it looks like there's a dent under the front window on the street side, or is that just a reflection? Are the windows all okay? It looks like most of the interior panels are there, but what about the rear interior end cap? Not sure about 1970, but in our '74 it was ABS. We replaced the front end cap with wood because it was cracked around the shelf, and I didn't like the look of it anyway The rear end cap was fine.

Are there appliances?
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New aluminum interior panels aren't a big deal, the end cap fabrication would be more difficult. At the right price, considering you want an entirely new layout, it's doable. I'm not really familiar with a 70’s trailer, is it painted interior or vinyl covered? Fair price? Hard to say, are all the windows there and glass not plexi and is the frame in good condition? If good skin, windows and frame.... I'd be in at $1000, maybe. It's a big project.
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No appliances - they gutted the entire inside, and no longer have what they took out. I'm not too fussed at this, as I am really interested in building using 'new or nearly new components. Looks like a dent on the outside to me too.
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