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Old 11-04-2017, 09:44 AM   #29
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Discharge it for practice?
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On a unit which has been recalled because it can explode in your hand?

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Old 11-04-2017, 10:08 AM   #30
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On a unit which has been recalled because it can explode in your hand?

That's why I put "?"
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:34 AM   #31
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Take-away lesson.....don't buy cheep one time use plastic.

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Nice...

Is this the extinguisher you purchased?

Amerex 417TC, 2.5lb ABC Dry Chemical Class A B C Chrome Fire Extinguisher
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007TTW9CC..._Y1D.zbK7B812E

Your picture is much better than the one on Amazon.
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Old 11-04-2017, 11:23 AM   #32
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Nice...

Is this the extinguisher you purchased?

Amerex 417TC, 2.5lb ABC Dry Chemical Class A B C Chrome Fire Extinguisher
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007TTW9CC..._Y1D.zbK7B812E

Your picture is much better than the one on Amazon.
Halotron....

This is the one in the picture. I didn't buy it from there, most places don't carry the chrome, I just got it just 'cuz it looks good sitting by the door.

This is the one I bought recently for the boat.
I paid $110, but thats A-zon, wait a week and the price will change again.

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Old 11-04-2017, 11:26 AM   #33
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Those Halotron extinguishers are pretty expensive, Bob, so I guess you feel the extra cost is worth it, in terms of possible use on electronics and so forth? [no residue]

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Old 11-04-2017, 12:16 PM   #34
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Yes.....they are $$$, But I did have occasion to use an ABC in the kitchen at my Mothers house. Nothing real serious, but it was a real mess to clean up.

We still have several 15lb Amerex ABC's in the garage and house, 5lb & 2.5 ABC in the Burb, but use Halotron exclusively for the AS,boat & M/B.

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Old 11-05-2017, 08:12 AM   #35
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Discharge it for practice? I bet very few people have ever used one.
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I very much agree that very few people have ever used one of these little extinguishers. I would not recommend a "practice run" with an "exploder" (also our pet name for one of our Fords ...).

Why do a practice run?

1) These are dirt cheap items. It does not cost much to buy one to try.
2) These are small gizmos, you need to understand what they can't do. (and how little they can do).
3) You need to do a cleanup after one and note just how much fun it is.

Now that you are slightly better informed, call up the local fire department and see when their next demo day is. Many of them have events where they show how to put out a fire. Around here they do it with a couple of different methods. There also are videos out there. Some show how *not* to put out a fire ....

All this just *might* convince you to get a bigger extinguisher. Yes it may not fit in the cute little enclosure ....sorry about that. It might save you a lot of grief in an unlikely situation ....

The downside of trying it with dry chemical is that you now understand the cleanup impact. If that is a big deal, switch to a different type of extinguisher. The ones I keep around the house are "not dry chemical" for exactly that reason. If you are going to hesitate using it ... that's really bad. You want something that there is no hesitation to use it. I should be better than I am about checking them. So far I have never found one in the red zone.

A big Halon or CO2 unit may be great for a lot of things, it *does* take up space. That's never something you have a lot of in an RV .... Being large(r) they *are* easier to find.

So truth in lending ... swapping out the extinguisher in the trailer is still on my "to do" list. Do as I say, not as I do !!!!

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Old 11-05-2017, 08:30 AM   #36
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I very much agree that very few people have ever used one of these little extinguishers. I would not recommend a "practice run" with an "exploder" (also our pet name for one of our Fords ...).

Why do a practice run?

1) These are dirt cheap items. It does not cost much to buy one to try.
2) These are small gizmos, you need to understand what they can't do. (and how little they can do).
3) You need to do a cleanup after one and note just how much fun it is.
The important thing to remember about fire extinguishers— in your Airstream or at home or in a place of business— is that you grab it on the way out the door, call the fire department, and then go back in to fight the fire. But only if you think you can do so safely, and only if you can keep a clear path from you to the exit the whole time so you're never trapped if the fire is too big for your wimpy little extinguisher.

There's a reason why the extinguisher brackets are always located right by the Airstream door…

And no one should ever use a CO2 extinguisher who hasn't received at least rudimentary training. Knowing where to aim it and how far away to stand make a big difference in using one effectively. In one of the training sessions I attended, they demonstrated (under controlled conditions) what would happen if one stood too close to the fire when using the extinguisher (burning material blown eveywhere, making matters worse). How an extinguisher could explode in a fire if it got too hot. What would happen if one aimed too high (no effect on the fire). And what would happen if one got a face-full of the chemical (almost as effective as tear gas, and excellent for impromptu home defense). And THEN they showed us the right way and had us try it. The class I was attending went through about 30 extinguishers that day…
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Old 11-06-2017, 07:06 PM   #37
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Hi All - just recently purchased my first Airstream a few months ago.

I've been working in the Airline Industry for almost 30 years. We always had to take recurrent training yearly on fire extinguishers.

One of the things stressed is not to use an A-B-C rated extinguisher around the aircraft. The "A" portion is used to fight wood, paper, trash, etc.. which can be extinguished with water. The "A" portion is also highly corrosive - bad for the aluminum aircraft and bad for the aluminum Airstream.

A - wood, paper, trash, ordinary material
B - flammable liquids
C - electrical

All fire extinguisher you see surrounding the aircraft on the ramp along on all the vehicles are all rated B-C Only. Even on the aircraft, we have B-C fire extinguisher, along with a separate water extinguisher.

Of course anything is better than nothing - but better to plan ahead.

Not an expert on fighting fires, just something I leaned in training. Hopefully something you never need to use to protect your investment.


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Old 11-06-2017, 07:24 PM   #38
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Yep, our 2014 Airstream came with a First Alert extinguisher.

Heard this from an RV service person (not an Airstream employee):
Q: "What's that for (pointing at the fire extinguisher)?"
My answer: "Uh, for putting out fires?"
His answer: "Wrong! It's the last thing you grab as you run out the door and then call the fire department from a safe distance outside the trailer."
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Old 11-06-2017, 08:46 PM   #39
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Kidde is recalling fire extinguishers

Double AMEN to that one. Get the heck out and let the professionals solve the problem. Stuff can be replaced. People and pets can’t...
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Old 11-16-2017, 09:39 AM   #40
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Received my replacement extinguishers (3) today via Fed-Ex. 11 days from filing claim. They came with return shipping label and packaging back to kidde. Called Fed-Ex for pick up tomorrow.
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Old 11-17-2017, 07:52 AM   #41
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Kidde extinguisher

Same here.Received replacement and sent back recalled unit.Bet that it costed them big,but not as much as losing court cases costed.Good move,Kidde!
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Checked ours, it's a First Alert ...

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