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Old 03-30-2016, 08:56 AM   #1
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Jacking up 20 year immobile 1960 TW

Hey all,

I have to get this trailer out of a yard where it's sat for 20 years. I can see the back of the frame it rotten, and the tongue even has a few 4-6 inch narrow holes in the top and of the tube....
I have to raise it up, fill the tires, fill in the holes where the tires were and see somehow if it is safe enough to drag down the back roads about 10 miles home... . I am currently going to try and get 2- 14 foot 4 x 4 under the front and rear, using bottle jacks, raise it up enough to inspect fill tires/replace, inspect bearings...etc...
I have attachable lights, etc...

Any suggestions much appreciated
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Old 03-30-2016, 09:42 AM   #2
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"and the tongue even has a few 4-6 inch narrow holes in the top and of the tube"

Please don't take this on a public road!

If you intend of using this trailer, at a minimum you are looking at some significant steel replacement.

Perhaps towing at less than 5 mph at 3am with flashers and an escort behind, I might give it a shot.

If you can get it out of the hole without yanking the hitch off, maybe it will hold up. I'd love to watch, from a distance!
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Old 03-30-2016, 11:32 AM   #3
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This will be a fun project! I suggest you first just try airing up the tires. If they'll hold air then stop at a nice, low ~20psi, then use your own TV to pull this AS *just a few feet* forward to get it out of the pits it's been sitting in. Then jack it up, and safely support it w/ 4 jackstands while you do the more thorough road-worthiness and safety inspections of, e.g. frame integrity, tongue integrity and function, hubs & bearings, axles & springs & the 'boltage' of these systems, running lights, and definitely replace all tires *before* towing it home because they are already ancient thus not safe to you, not to your new-2-u AS, and not to any the motoring a/o pedestrian public, & property, that you will have to pass by on the 10 mile trip home. (Else, first make sure you have gobs more liability insurance in place )

If it turns out to not be safely towable by you even with new tires, then hire an auto-recovery/transporter who has a long enough trailer, something like a "Take 3" trailer will work to haul your AS, but keep in mind you'll have a vertical clearance to pay attention to on the way home. A competent transporter know exactly what to ensure a safe transport and will safely employ all the necessary tie-down chains, and how to use the winch to get it onto the trailer and then off the trailer once at your location.

If no professional transporter will be hired but it still can't be flat-towed, then you can rent a long enough trailer w/ an installed winch, get a couple pipes to use to winch&skid this AS up and onto your trailer. Chains and boomers to secure the AS frame/axles to the trailer. Take it home and start to enjoy your new hobby!
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This will be a fun project! I suggest you first just try airing up the tires. If they'll hold air then stop at a nice, low ~20psi, then use your own TV to pull this AS *just a few feet* forward to get it out of the pits it's been sitting in. Then jack it up, and safely support it w/ 4 jackstands while you do the more thorough road-worthiness and safety inspections of, e.g. frame integrity, tongue integrity and function, hubs & bearings, axles & springs & the 'boltage' of these systems, running lights, and definitely replace all tires *before* towing it home because they are already ancient thus not safe to you, not to your new-2-u AS, and not to any the motoring a/o pedestrian public, & property, that you will have to pass by on the 10 mile trip home. (Else, first make sure you have gobs more liability insurance in place )

If it turns out to not be safely towable by you even with new tires, then hire an auto-recovery/transporter who has a long enough trailer, something like a "Take 3" trailer will work to haul your AS, but keep in mind you'll have a vertical clearance to pay attention to on the way home. A competent transporter know exactly what to ensure a safe transport and will safely employ all the necessary tie-down chains, and how to use the winch to get it onto the trailer and then off the trailer once at your location.

If no professional transporter will be hired but it still can't be flat-towed, then you can rent a long enough trailer w/ an installed winch, get a couple pipes to use to winch&skid this AS up and onto your trailer. Chains and boomers to secure the AS frame/axles to the trailer. Take it home and start to enjoy your new hobby!
What he said times two and even more caution. How wet is the field? If the floor supports a crop of mushrooms RUN FORREST RUN! You'll find iron ore where the frame and axles used to be.

I volunteered to help a friend get one like this out of a 20 year parking spot. Three days and 400 chigger bites later I vowed NEVER again. You gotta know when to fold-em too.

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On edit I see you're in Texas. The climate may be a lot dryer there than it is here. But if the floor is gone I stick by my "RUN" advice. Call a scrapyard.
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Since your in Ontario... Try airing up the tires first and see if it will tow out of the original spot and then give it a good look over. You could bolt some angle iron on the tongue for added security just to get it home.
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Old 03-31-2016, 01:18 PM   #6
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Hey all,

I have to get this trailer out of a yard where it's sat for 20 years. I can see the back of the frame it rotten, and the tongue even has a few 4-6 inch narrow holes in the top and of the tube....
I have to raise it up, fill the tires, fill in the holes where the tires were and see somehow if it is safe enough to drag down the back roads about 10 miles home... . I am currently going to try and get 2- 14 foot 4 x 4 under the front and rear, using bottle jacks, raise it up enough to inspect fill tires/replace, inspect bearings...etc...
I have attachable lights, etc...

Any suggestions much appreciated
You're starting with a real advantage only being 10 miles on rural roads from home!

If using the 4x4s seems to be the way to go I would put one as close to rear of the axle as possible then use the tongue as the front jack point. But first I would do as rsjmcg suggested and air up the tires and pull the trailer forward to a spot where it's easier to work on. I would not purchase new tires unless it's really necessary as it sounds like this will be a project that will take some time to finish, and RV tires have a lifespan of 5-7 years. No point in having them aging out under your trailer while you're still working on it. If the tires don't hold air, see if you can borrow a set of wheels from another trailer with the same bolt pattern. If the wheels turn smoothly and are not loose on the axles then the bearings are probably okay for 10 miles. Take the grease hubs off and make sure that the castle nut and cotter pin are in place.

Concerning the state of the tongue and the rust you see there, jack up the trailer at the hitch and let it down on blocks just behind where the a-frame disappears under the trailer. Try moving the tongue up and down to see if its connection to the trailer is broken. If it is I wouldn't try to tow it without doing something to remedy that first. Keep in mind that this trailer was designed to go thousands of miles at highway speeds. Even if the frame has lost some of its strength due to rust it's probably okay for another 10 miles at 10 MPH.

If the tires hold air I wouldn't hesitate to travel 10 miles on back roads. Go slowly and make frequent stops to check that the wheel bearings aren't getting hot and that everything looks okay. Have someone follow you to help keep an eye on things.
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