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07-12-2016, 01:37 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1978 29' Ambassador
1955 18' Globetrotter
1975 Argosy 22
PIGEON FORGE
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 12
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Got a 1978 Ambassador w/ original Magic Chief unit still going strong
Gino D
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07-12-2016, 02:17 PM
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Overland Adventurer
1991 34' Excella
2009 34' Panamerica
Telluride
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,476
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Original 1991 Penguin I runni g cold in my 34' in Savannah heat. Its 100 here today... Im chillin at 79 in partial sun.
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07-12-2016, 03:02 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1970 25' Tradewind
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 166
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J Morgan-
What is the key/tricks to keeping your Airstream so cool?? Out 13,000 in our 25' doesn't seem to cool as much as we would like. Thank you-
Victoria
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2006 30' Classic
1970 25' Trade Wind Custom Renovation
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07-12-2016, 03:33 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1969 31' Sovereign
Paris
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 77
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Original 69 Armstrong in mine. Rebuilt condensate drain pan and replaced fan motor. Thermostat is acting up a bit so I'm looking for a replacement. Still cooling strong.
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07-12-2016, 03:41 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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Nine years. A couple of weeks ago it was well up in the 90's where we were and the A/C in the sun brought the temp down 21˚. It seems that it worked better in the past. I know the standard for an RV A/C is a 20˚ difference, but I believe it used to do better. Shade, awnings and keeping it on all day will bring the temp lower after a while.
A trick I learned from Bob Cross was after driving in the sun, the inside of the trailer is really hot. Turn on the A/C and set the thermostat to 60˚ and it seems to bring down the temp much faster. I can think of no reason that would work, but it seems to.
An A/C is just a refrigerator and the technology is very old by now. They can make these things able to last lifetimes and for not much more money, but they don't. Buy a fridge for your house and every salesman tells you they only last 10 years. How long the newer A/C's last is still being determined, but I hope it is better than a home fridge. Same for the trailer fridge too.
Gene
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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07-12-2016, 06:39 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1983 31' Excella
The Woodlands
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 93
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I called Holiday World in Katy, Texas on July 11th to get my 33 year old Coleman a/c serviced or replaced. Everything was going good until I told them I had a 1983 Airstream. Once they found out I did not buy my AS from them, they could not touch my trailer.
I guess they can sell AS but they do not want to work on them… I will remember this when I go to buy my new one.
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07-12-2016, 07:16 PM
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3 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
belen
, New Mexico
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 191
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All the AS A/c units I had from 64 to 79 (10) had the orig a/c and it worked great! I suggest you give it good cleaning on both coils in and out and while your up there oil the fan motor. The one I had to replace , I got a new carrier and popped it in myself in one afternoon.
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07-12-2016, 08:37 PM
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Rivet Master
1968 24' Tradewind
Oxford,
, Mississippi
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,564
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My AC is the original Armstrong and it is 48 years old and still works great. The motor has been replaced by a PO and I replaces the on/off switch and the transformer.
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2001 Toyota Tundra
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07-12-2016, 08:46 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1981 31' Excella II
Richmond
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 133
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Our 1981 Excella II has its original unit. It is noisy but still cooling OK.
Just keeping our fingers crossed.
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31' 1981 Excella II
2001 F-250 7.3D Crew w/8'bed and Pullrite 180degree
"Ask the Man Who Owns One" (Packard, Of Course)
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"Ask the Woman who lives with one...or more!" (Gail)
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07-12-2016, 11:02 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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What if the air conditioners in Airstreams really are not that awfully loud, but the interiors of Airstreams, (new and old alike), absorb very little sound, and reflect a lot of sound?
#FoodForThought
#JustSayin...
Gradiens super tenui glacie.
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07-12-2016, 11:04 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Tex4Fun
J Morgan-
What is the key/tricks to keeping your Airstream so cool?? Out 13,000 in our 25' doesn't seem to cool as much as we would like. Thank you-
Victoria
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See post #18!
Much Grace,
J. Morgan
Gradiens super tenui glacie.
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07-12-2016, 11:14 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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What if what we like most about our Airstreams make them very difficult to cool?
The conduction of the aluminum skin, trusses, and inner skin is often cited as a cooling issue, but the coveted shiny skin itself is not often cited.
The aluminum skin gets VERY hot in direct sun, and not just very hot, but very, very hot. Like to the point where a person can see a trace of steam rise from the surface when sprayed with water on a hot sunshiny day.
A person would think that a very reflective surface would reflect most of the heat away, but that aint so.
Our air conditioners would have a much easier time if our trailers were painted a lighterish color.
I have to think that our friends with Argosy trailers fare better in the summer....
Gradiens super tenui glacie.
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07-14-2016, 09:04 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1976 29' Ambassador
Fitchburg
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 174
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We have a 10 year old Dometic Penguin on our trailer. When I changed out the original plastic pan to the cup drains last year the sound level in the trailer was much less obnoxious. I think the foam gaskets helped to "decouple" the AC from the trailer so less sound is transmitted to the trailer.
Dennis
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07-16-2016, 05:19 PM
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Rivet Master
1987 32' Excella
Nepean
, Ontario
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,414
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The original Coleman died while I was having my AS serviced at JC 4 years ago. Was replaced with a Dometic.
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AIR 12148
1987 Excella 32-foot
1999 Dodge Ram 2500HD Diesel
WBCCI 8080
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07-16-2016, 05:52 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1973 31' Sovereign
Middletown
, California
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 424
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The Armstrong unit on my '73 is still working well but I had to fiberglass over the shroud and paint it because the sun was dissolving it. The condenser airflow exhausts straight up out of my year and that allows leaves and other debris fall into the grill, a slight design defect that was corrected a year or two later. The unit will probably run for a long time to come as I don't use it much. There is really no set lifespan for an AC unit, it sort of involves a bit of luck as far as I can tell. Just keep the airflow free, the voltage up and don't short cycle the compressor and they can last a long time.
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08-09-2016, 07:17 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1987 33' Argosy
Campbellsville
, Kentucky
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 29
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Our A/C unit is an Emerson, and it appears to be the original from 1988. (We have an 88 front kitchen, single door "squarestream" Argosy.) It does a fairly decent job except when the outside heat is over 100 degrees. It's not super noisy, but the thermostat has failed, so now we have to turn it on and off with the wall switch that turns the A/C off when the circuit for the Microwave is on.
We've been wondering if replacing it would be our best bet, but before we do that we hope to add one for the bedroom - there's a ceiling vent that we think we can use to install a second one.
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87 Argosy 33 F since April 2010
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08-16-2016, 07:45 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1967 26' Overlander
Spartanburg
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 437
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Morgan
What if what we like most about our Airstreams make them very difficult to cool?
The conduction of the aluminum skin, trusses, and inner skin is often cited as a cooling issue, but the coveted shiny skin itself is not often cited.
The aluminum skin gets VERY hot in direct sun, and not just very hot, but very, very hot. Like to the point where a person can see a trace of steam rise from the surface when sprayed with water on a hot sunshiny day.
A person would think that a very reflective surface would reflect most of the heat away, but that aint so.
Our air conditioners would have a much easier time if our trailers were painted a lighterish color.
I have to think that our friends with Argosy trailers fare better in the summer....
Gradiens super tenui glacie.
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Newer A/Ss have some sort of white coating on the roof which apparently does a better job reflecting heat than the shiny aluminum. There is a thread on this Forum regarding this subject that discusses the use by some posters of white roof coatings they claim substantially reduces the heat load inside their A/Ss. One I recall was called "Buskote" if I've spelled it right. My off season project will be to try that on my '67 which still has the original operating Armstrong on the roof which needs a little help though it runs well..
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08-27-2018, 09:06 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
1977 28' Argosy 28
Katy
, Texas
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cdufault
What the maximum life expectancy is for a roof top air conditioner? The A/C in my 1977 Argosy 28 MH blows about 20 degrees cooler than outside temp. My local Camping World said a new A/C wouldn't cool much better (but I suspect replacing my AC was too much work.)
As far as I can tell I have an original roof top air conditioner on my 1977 Argosy 28 MH. The shroud has the same beltline trim as the motorhome, and the inside roof control matches the ceiling finish.
The shroud is still in tact and doesn't seem too brittle although I've painted it to provide some sun protection.
I'm just curious if there are older air-conditioners still in the service among air forum members.
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I know it's been a couple of years since you posted your note about your Argosy A/C unit, but I'm curious whether you decided to stick with what you had, or if you replaced the unit. I'm also wondering what kind of generator you're using and how well it works with keeping the a/c going. We have a '77 Argosy 28', and we're looking to replace the generator. We also have the original Armstrong A/C.
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08-27-2018, 12:48 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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I run my 72 Armstrong unit on a Yamaha EF 2400 ISHC.
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