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Old 05-14-2009, 11:31 AM   #15
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That's right Mr. Doane, two TradeWinds. I had to use something as a model and I have mine memorized.

Dan ~ thanks for the suggestions. I especially like the thought of moving the compressor so now it'll now go under the stairs. I will rethink the area that includes the kitchen, lounge and bathroom as your thoughts on wood shavings and airborne particles is right on. I hadn't considered another man sized entry door in the back since this will be close to the property line where there is an unrestricted bridal path behind the property. My thinking was that I wouldn't be able to see it from the house and I didn't want to provide an access point for prowlers but an extra escape is always a good thing. I'll just need to secure it really well. I am planning on having some low ceiling storage space above the right parking pad and a place where I could slide full sheets of plywood under the railing from below so I won't have to carry them up the crooked staircase.

Keep these ideas coming, they'll help us all. Much appreciated.


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Old 05-14-2009, 12:05 PM   #16
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I've got a separate shed next to my shop. I'd suggest a dedicated 30 amp circuit for each trailer stall. I plumbed my trailer shed with a dump site as well..plumbed to house sewer.

For the shop: I recommend a small attached shed for your air compressor and adequate sized shop vac...all plumbed into the shop area quite easily. It really cuts down on the noise. You'll be glad you did. FWIW.

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Old 05-14-2009, 12:21 PM   #17
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Thanks for the suggestions Scott. I'm downloading the Google Sketchup program that Brad drew his up to start plugging things in. I never knew that was out there. Make me wonder what else I don't know!
Along with the outside air compressor, I'm also going to make a place for a very noisy generator.
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:00 PM   #18
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Just don't bury your compressor too much or you will forget to drain the condensation! Could be an expensive mistake. Ask me how I know.....

Also note that you could put in a rear door without any outside hardware. No locks, handles or anything to grab on to.
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:02 PM   #19
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I have a 60' x 40' pole barn for my little stuff. It is amazing to me that it was full one week after we got it up!!! I am glad it is not bigger and I'm glad its not smaller, but that is for me and our stuff.

My biggest concern is the door height, my neighbor had a barn built and he had a fiver that fit in it quite well. Later he decided to purchase a class a pusher... guess what... it wouldn't fit through the door by 3".

Not that anyone of us is going that route but... ensure the opening is at least 13'6" tall, as that is the legal height limit to all RV's.

As someone else said "14' at the least, as you need at least 6" for rollup door hardware."

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Old 05-14-2009, 01:10 PM   #20
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This is the plan we're using - hope to start on it later this summer. Not huge but large enough for the trailer and a work area/mower storage. The rear lift door will move to the left side wall and that man door will be eliminated. I think the plan for this one was $35.00 or so.

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Old 05-14-2009, 04:18 PM   #21
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When I built current house, basement floor had 6" pvc laid under it, penetrating up through slab in three places (Unisaw, Bandsaw/Wood Lathe, Radial Arm Saw) and then also emerging at site of remote controlled dust collector. Blast gates at each exit and Radial Arm Saw has a hose that 's removable to connect to Planer / Jointer. You can't imagine how nice woodworking can be when all the dust and chips disappear down into the floor and reemerge in a remote place into the dust collector bag. And no ducts to hang things up on or trip over ... cost was minimal, benefit was huge. Use street Ys at all connections under slab and stuff can't hang up (well, at least not so far ... it's been 12 years!).

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Old 05-14-2009, 04:56 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by myboyburt View Post
We built our Airstream barn a few years ago and it's 40' deep x 30' wide. I cannot remember the height but it's wicked tall as the doors are 14' high and it has a storage loft above the bays. It was built to hold the largest Airstream MH at the time as my Parents were thinking of upgrading from their 30' Airstream MH to a bigger Airstream MH and to hold our beloved 25' Excella. It currently stores our 25' Excella and our 20' Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre. We have plans to expand so we can store my sister's 25' Airstream and our utility trailers - this is down the road due to $$$$.
The Argosy & Airstream sure look comfortable in y'alls barn... nice place to be in the winter I'll bet!
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Old 05-14-2009, 06:41 PM   #23
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For the shop: I recommend a small attached shed for your air compressor .[/quote]

if you have neighbors close by and like working into the wee hours, this might not be ok. it sure does cut the noise inside!
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Old 05-14-2009, 06:55 PM   #24
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If you plan on ever polishing your AS in there, I'm going to guess that 14' would be the absolute comfort minimum.

Who wants to have to worry about banging their head on the ceiling when they polish the roof?
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Old 05-15-2009, 08:56 AM   #25
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Since you are planning space for woodworking, and assuming you have a table saw, you may want to consider identifying where it will reside and run electrical and dust collection in the concrete floor. One slick solution I saw was a channel with removable flooring, they used old raised flooring panels from computer rooms. The other solution is to run the conduit and dust collection before the concrete is poured. If you are a serious woodworker, you may want to look at 220V circuits.`
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Old 05-15-2009, 07:28 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by AirHeadsRus View Post
Thanks guys, some really great ideas. I had not thought about putting a inside dump but I might as well before the slab gets done. Should be able to pre plumb and wire for what ever might come down the road.
I saw a building in a brochure (attached), similar to what Brad had drawn up. The sales guy is coming out this morning, so I'll see what the options are. I like the idea of the big over hang, covered but not enclosed.
Leon, is your barn a drive thru or do you back in. I'd like a drive thru but it adds to the expense of another door and looses bench and storage area in the back.
Thanks again for your replies,
Our barn is a back in. Our property is located on the side of a steep hill and there's a 20' drop off right behind the barn. It would be a tricky drive through for sure.....
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Old 05-15-2009, 07:40 PM   #27
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I think I have everything ready to go now with the building. It will be 36'X45' with a 12'X45 overhang that is not enclosed. Doors will be 14' high and close to
15.5 in the center. Should give me plenty of room. Should be able to go up late July or early August. It is a steel building which will need to be ordered, made & delivered which they can not do until the permits get issued. I did not know this but they will put the building up, then pour the slab. That will give me a lot of time to work on how I want everything set up as far as plumbing, electrical, and stuff like dust collection.
Thanks again for the input and keep the suggestions coming. I'll try to post a layout with doors & windows as soon as I can get it.
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Almost finished

The Morton folks came last week and I almost have my shop built. I think it is tall enough. The concrete folks will be here tomorrow and will pour the floor next week. Should be done by the end of next week.
Then, my work will start with the power and setting up the work spaces.
It appears they did an excellent job.
Thanks again for the input. I guess I need to move the thread somewhere else or start a new one on finishing "Maude's" house.
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