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Old 06-09-2014, 11:44 PM   #71
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Love that look! If you're looking for varnish you should check out Le Tonkinois. It's a French varnish that's tung oil based and all natural. Since there are no driers in it it's flexible, which means it won't get those small stress cracks from bumping down the road. I've used it on wooden boats, furniture and will be using it on our AS when the time comes, and best of all it's really goof-proof. I get mine from American Rope & Tar. Check out their photo gallery: http://www.tarsmell.com Attachment 213946

Thank you for the tip, Calais66! Will check it out.
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Great thread, tagging along! I'm trying to troubleshoot my fridge, how did you bypass the thermostat?
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Old 06-12-2014, 01:22 AM   #73
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Great thread, tagging along! I'm trying to troubleshoot my fridge, how did you bypass the thermostat?
Thank you bakes! To determine why the refrigerator wasn't working after I plugged it in, I first looked at the wiring diagram on the back of the unit then removed the cover from the area that contains all the spade connectors.
Using my my volt meter, I physically traced the wires to see where I have voltage. When I realized the problem was related to the thermostat, I simply took one spade connector for the heater element and connected it directly to the hot wire, thereby bypassing the thermostat (and the switch). The heater element immediately started to get hot, so I let it run overnight and had an icy freezer and cold refrigerator in the morning.

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Old 06-17-2014, 02:17 PM   #75
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Hope's Log - Month 2 Day 17: 06/17/14

Although I haven't made any physical progress on Hope since the last update, my wife and I have made great progress agreeing to the design and the material that we will use to renovate the interior. (Many hours of discussions and negotiations, which felt like a debate at the United Nations over nuclear disarmament! ).

We agreed to the following:
  1. Wall and Trim Material
    • Original interior's vinyl walls will be painted glossy or satin white.
    • Brushed aluminum for the curbside refrigerator wall as you enter.
    • Brushed aluminum for the twin bunks head and foot walls.
    • Brushed or shiny aluminum wall panels around the kitchen's stove & sink area.
    • Shiny aluminum for the underside of the top cabinets above the twin bunks, so when you look up you see your reflection with two or three recessed LED lights.
    • Teak trim wherever trim is required.
  2. Kitchen
    • I wanted to replace the original stove/oven and double-bowl sink with a new cooktop and a deep, round, single-bowl sink.
    • My wife convinced me to keep the original stainless steel Magic Chef stove/oven and double-sink, since they are in great condition.
    • What really convinced me is her promise to bake me cakes and meatloaf when we travel, so you don't have to tell me twice!
    • Although the kitchen area will now maintain a vintage-like appearance, we will replace the original yellow formica counters with teak and the tambour cabinetry with white wainscot cabinets to get that downeaster yacht look we are going for...
  3. Bathroom
    • After many ideas that I engineered in my head and tried to explain to my wife, including using a large, single-bowl kitchen sink that I'd fabricate into a shower enclosure that fit into the rounded corner, a friend suggested going with a larger rectangular tub.
    • My original concern of the tub protruding too far out from the corner and blocking the window was addressed by going with a 24" x 32" x 16" fiberglass tub and a novel shower curtain rail design that can be pushed aside when not in use to make the window fully visible from the inside and outside.
    • I drew the attached pencil sketch as a visual aid to explain the idea to my wife.
    • She approved the design and the tub is scheduled to arrive this Friday, so I should be able to place it in Hope and take pictures to further refine the design.
    • My wife likes the idea of the rectangular tub being away from the curved walls and wants a teak trim/seat to fill in the gap around the corners.
    • She also wants a bowl-type sink that sits above the bathroom cabinet and is visible out the back window, so that design is still a work-in-progress...
    • New toilet will be selected by my wife, so she can never say she doesn't like what I picked (Smart, eh?).
  4. Other activities include:
    • Boxed up and sold over a dozen vintage parts to my fellow Airstreamers, so that they can fullfill their dream projects. The money from these sales will help defer the cost of the new parts, so it's a win-win situation!
    • My children gave me two great books for Father's Day, "Restoring a Dream: My Journey Restoring a Vintage Airstream" by Tim Shephard and "RV Vacations for Dummies!" (What are they trying to tell me? )
    • Performed the "jump on the bumper test" to confirm the axles are indeed shot and added to the project timeline the task to purchase new axles and brakes before I get too far along with the interior (I know the brakes and exterior lights are suppose to be a priority, but it's not as fun as daydreaming and designing the interior in my head...).
I look forward to putting in a full 16-hour day on Saturday cleaning the interior walls with Marine Clean and laying out the floor plan with blue tape, so that the real fun of assembly can begin and I promise to take lots of pictures.

Have a great week everyone!

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Great thread! I've got a '71 TW in am renovating. I am most interested in your posts on the bathroom remodel. Where did you pick up the 24"x32"x16" tub. I think I might be able to convert my wet bath into a standard bath with a tub that size.

Thanks again and I look forward to following your progress.
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Vent stack

What are you going to do with the vent stack for the sink and old wet bath shower drain?
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Old 06-17-2014, 07:04 PM   #78
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Great thread! I've got a '71 TW in am renovating. I am most interested in your posts on the bathroom remodel. Where did you pick up the 24"x32"x16" tub. I think I might be able to convert my wet bath into a standard bath with a tub that size.

Thanks again and I look forward to following your progress.

I purchased it through Amazon, because I have Free Shipping through my Amazon Prime account and saved ~$48.00 in shipping costs.

My wife and I looked at hundreds of tubs, including mini claw foot, japanese soaking tubs, stainless steel cheese vats and finally settled on the small rv tub to avoid having me fabricate a stainless steel/aluminum shower enclosure from scratch.

The two rv tubs we narrowed the search down to were the Step/Seat Tub
Lyons 32" x 24" White Right Center Drain Step/Seat Tub - Step/Seat Tubs - Bath Tubs - Showers & Tubs - Plumbing

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Lyons 32" x 24" White Right Center Drain Full Bathtub - Full Tubs - Bath Tubs - Showers & Tubs - Plumbing

The step/seat tub looked like it would fit better by having the seat sit above the curbside hatch that accesses the battery and inverter, however, when I realized I had to move the tub ~12" away from the curbside wall to fit a 32" rectangular tub, the full tub became a better choice, since it will not be next to the hatch's opening (I will upload a revised Visio drawing of the floor layout tonight).

As for the vent pipe and drain opening, I plan to re-plumb the drain to the new location and with the estimated 12" gap between the side of the tub and the curbside wall, I will either use an exposed aluminum or stainless steel vertical pipe to run up to the ceiling's vent opening (I may even mount the shower head and handheld shower from it too) or do what Aerowood did in his AS by burying the vent pipe in the curbside wall if I choose to pop off the interior wall panel (I really like my exposed vertical pipe idea!).

On Saturday, I should be able to work out all the logistics and measurements to determine if what I see in my head is close to reality...
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Hope's Log - Month 2 Day 22: 06/22/14 - Bathroom Design Day!

On Friday, the new 32" x 24" tub arrived and after unboxing it my wife and I realized we had made a good choice, because after searching for a tub/shower solution for several weeks, this tub appears to be the right size for our AS.

On Saturday, I was like a kid on Christmas morning and rushed outside with my new tub to see how it looked in the back curb-side corner. My first reaction was, "Oh crap!" The rectanglar tub doesn't fit into the round corner as well as it did on the Visio drawing I had created, but it turns out the curve I drew on the computer is not the same dimensions as the AS corner, so I was faced with a new problem and a reality check.

I spent the next two hours taking measurements, drawing chalk lines and visualizing what the walls would look like as they rise vertically to meet the AS curved ceiling walls. The issue is with being 6' tall and being too close to the ceiling as it curves inward at the 5' mark while trying to shower.

I was still struggling with the layout when my wife walked into the AS. Before I explain what happened next, I have to give a little background. My nickname for my wife is the "Queen of Kitty Corner", because she insists on putting our bed and the armoire kitty-corner in our master bedroom and tries to do the same with the couch and chairs in our living room! She tried to get me to consider doing the same for the tub when I was drawing it on the computer, but I simply said it wouldn't fit...

...So...after explaining my dilemma, she walked over to the tub and turned it kitty-corner. Viola! It worked beautifully!

I failed to realize that, unlike the house, where using kitty-corner in a square room seems like a waste of space (large empty triangle behind the headboard and the armoire) it works much better with a curved corner!After taking a few more measurements and working out the details of the bathroom sink/cabinet, I thanked my wife for solving the bathroom design problem. We are now well on our way to getting the bathroom built!

I will update the Visio drawing and post it in another blog later this week.

In the meantime, while visualizing the vertical walls and how they will meet the ceiling, I realize the original seams between the vinyl walls/ceiling and the bathroom's fiberglass end cap were not going to work.

So, I took my Dewalt grinder and cut a straight line from one wall across the ceiling to the other wall at the point where the ceiling rails that hold the center ceiling panel ends.

This will make a very clean transition just inside the bathroom. I will post additional pictures as I build the bathroom walls and my "porthole bathroom door", which will be my "Signature Piece" for this project...

My wife and I spent Saturday evening cleaning the entire interior with Marine Clean degreaser then washed it all down with clean water. Now we are sitting on Sunday morning with our laptops trying to find a blog that can help us understand the best way to prime/paint the interior vinyl walls and the front and back endcaps. We are very excited, but also nervous about using the wrong products on the different materials. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Happy Sunday Everyone! Good luck Team USA against Portugal Today!

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What I have found is that you can start out with a plan in your head, but as soon as you start actually looking at the interior space with all its curved surfaces, you have to transition to a design as you go mode. Be mindful that more mistakes crop up when you go that route.

Things that look good on paper, may not work so well in the flesh. When I got my shower pan for the bath, I physically sat it in the space like you did and moved it to I got to a point where I was happy with the ergonomics. I stood in it and swung my arms around to see if there would be problems with a shower spray in my hand. Also, I wanted to keep the battery box where it was to help keep the weight down on the tongue. That necessitated moving the shower pan back from the wall, but in my case, it is still even with the door opening. I created a seat on two sides that matches the curved contour and gives me and the wife a spot to sit if we need to as well as a spot to store shampoo and soap.

The other issue I dealt with was that lovely big window. On newer trailers, you will notice that they shrunk that window and offset it to one side, so that the shower area isn't in front of a window and the water isn't near the window either. Even catty-corner your tub will have some exposure in front of the window. Are you planning on some sort of shower curtain to provide privacy and to also keep the window from getting wet from the overspray? Looking at the one picture, it doesn't seem obvious to me how much space you will have available to put a sink cabinet in there as well, but maybe you've already got an idea about that.
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[QUOTE=aquinob;1472797]What I have found is that you can start out with a plan in your head, but as soon as you start actually looking at the interior space with all its curved surfaces, you have to transition to a design as you go mode. Be mindful that more mistakes crop up when you go that route.

Hello Bob,

Thank you for the insight! I agree that the drawing was helpful, but now it's time to design the rest of the bathroom and make adjustments as I build it. Exciting stuff!

I like what you did with the corian corners in your shower and anticipate doing similar work with teak. ( My Airstream Adventure, Making a 1973 Overlander Our Own. ). I also plan to customize a stainless shower curtain rail to overcome the issue with the big window.

The kitty-corner tub will allow me to avoid the battery hatch all together, which was what I was struggling with in the original tub layout (The chalk lines in the picture show the compromise I made to avoid the hatch while moving closer to the window, which will lead to a creative sink cabinet design that my wife has asked for with a bowl-like sink that sits on top of the cabinet and can be seen from outside the back window.

Also, thanks to your blog on how you used the Attwood marine boat fill, I have come up with a great idea for not only replacing the existing water inlet to fill the fresh water tank, but also installing a second one to flush the black water tank and possibly be able to reconfigure the vent pipes to avoid having it in the middle of the shower. So many ideas, so little time...

Unfortunately, it is 108 degrees in the AS right now, so we have decided to stay inside today and search for the correct primer/paint brands for the vinyl and plastic end caps, so it will probably be a couple of weeks before I start to buy the wood material for the tub and sink bases.

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In my bath, I used oil based rustoleum enamel for both the plastic cap and the vinyl covered aluminum. So far so good, covered well. I'm happy with it.
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Hello! So exciting to see other 70's in progress! We have a 25' 1971 Caravanner that my husband and I are just finishing up. We replaced some floor & installed bamboo interlocking floor planks, reworked & cleaned all appliances, took out most the interior panels & front endcap (painted them bright white after a good scrubbing), we also painted the tambour silver which is a nice contrast to the white, re-insulated after much research before reinstalling the panels, added a grey tank & new black tank. We did new shower, sink and toilet but kept the back bathroom configuration. Built a custom "J" shaped lounge/dinette in the front that extends down the street side. We replaced 2 front upper street side panels last summer. Ryan just replaced the axels this past week. This weekend was our first weekend out this season. I wish I had documented our progress better. I have lots of pictures but have yet to get them uploaded. Will look forward to seeing your progress. Good luck on your journey.

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...took out most the interior panels & front endcap (painted them bright white after a good scrubbing)...

....added a grey tank & new black tank.

Amy & Ryan

Hello Amy & Ryan,

What type of paint (Brand, type) did you use to paint the interior panels & front endcap?

Also, I would love to see pictures of where you added the grey tank & new black tank. Did you remove the belly pan or the plywood sub-floor to install each one?

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