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Old 06-04-2014, 06:42 AM   #57
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That is most likely for some type of sway control. When I got the trailer, there were no parts for that. So far I haven't experienced any sway while towing, but high winds and lots of semis passing by are known to cause that.
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:42 AM   #58
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Here's the device that fits on the little ball next to the main hitch ball.



It's a simple sliding friction device that was pretty effective on our old 18 footer. If you're shopping for Reese hitches, their "strait-line" hitch includes another type of sway control:

I now have one of these on the hitch that came with our 27. Still setting up the hitch - the dealer got it wrong, as they often do - so can't comment yet on how effective it is. The things that look like turnbuckles are the sway controllers.
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Thank you, Gnorts! Very helpful info!
I will be working on the Reese configuration and may consider the sway control feature.
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I can't wait to see what you do with the bathroom. We have the same bathroom and it has been gutted. I can't seem to find where to look for a new shell.
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I can't wait to see what you do with the bathroom. We have the same bathroom and it has been gutted. I can't seem to find where to look for a new shell.
Hello Megan,
A felllow Airstreamer sent me this link for a corner shower, which my wife and I are consider: Airstream Corner shower
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Old 06-07-2014, 08:22 PM   #62
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Here's the device that fits on the little ball next to the main hitch ball.



It's a simple sliding friction device that was pretty effective on our old 18 footer. If you're shopping for Reese hitches, their "strait-line" hitch includes another type of sway control:

I now have one of these on the hitch that came with our 27. Still setting up the hitch - the dealer got it wrong, as they often do - so can't comment yet on how effective it is. The things that look like turnbuckles are the sway controllers.
This hitch is also referred to as the dual cam type. I have it on my 32-ft Excella, and it was set up for my by JC.

When the TV-trailer is not in a straight line, the cams on the end of the equalizer bars ride up in their saddles - one going back the other going forward. This produces a force to bring the whole TV-trailer back to a straight line. It is an active form of sway control, unlike the friction type in the top photo.

Mine doesn't have the turnbuckles, so to do the final adjustment, the saddles across the frame have to be loosened and tapped slightly to get them into position whereby, in a straight line, the cams sit precisely in the saddles with no gap either to the front or the back. The process of setting up the hitch actually took almost an hour, as the tech at JC used a tape measure to first determine that the height between the road and the top of the fender wells (front and back) dropped the same distance when the trailer was hitched. The next process was to drive around the building and then drive in a totally straight line for a couple of hundred feet and then stop. The position of the cams was then adjusted - on the newer version as shown in the lower photo, this would be accomplished using the turnbuckles and a pocket knife to ensure that there is no gap.

From a practical point of view, I was driving through DFW in TX last December on my way to AZ just after they had a snowfall. The road had icy ruts whenever there was a bridge over a creek or roadway. The TV lurched sideways about 6 or 8 inches but the TV-trailer stayed in a perfectly straight line.
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Old 06-07-2014, 09:14 PM   #63
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A felllow Airstreamer sent me this link for a corner shower, which my wife and I are consider: Airstream Corner shower

Thats not cheap, hopefully it would fit without a lot of work.
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Old 06-08-2014, 06:34 PM   #64
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Hello Gnorts,

Have you had an opportunity to look at the photos I posted with the glossy white panels and the teak and holly floor?

I'm hoping to be able to purchase these type of panels and doors and greatly appreciate it if you can point me to a distributor. Same thing for the teak and holly flooring. Any guidance will be most appreciative!



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Old 06-08-2014, 07:10 PM   #65
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Thats not cheap, hopefully it would fit without a lot of work.
Hello Bob, You're right. The shower unit is price is pricey, so I'm considering all my other options. I hope to come up with the shower decision soon, since the rest of Hope's floorplan will be determined by hour much of a footprint I use for the bathroom. I'm narrowing down the choices and hope to be able to show my wife my recommendations soon, so that we can make a final decision...
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Hope's Log - Month 2 Day 8: 06/08/14

As much as I would have loved to work on Hope's brakes this weekend, and install my recently purchased Tekonsha P3 brake controller, the 100+ degree temperatures kept me working inside my garage and home office. I was able to help my friend install the new transom, bow compartment and dashboard on the Starcraft boat he is restoring and prepared another 10 vintage parts for shipping on Monday for my fellow Airstreamers, but after 8 hours in the heat, I was exhausted and spent the evening watching the Kings beat the Rangers in Game 2 of the Stanley Cup Finals (Tough weekend...)

I also took the time to take exact measurements of the inside of Hope in order to design her interior on my computer using Visio (See attached drawing).

I figure I can maximize the size of the new bathroom and the shower space by creating a custom aluminum unit and by eliminating the original curbside wardrobe closet (mine) while leaving the streetside wardrobe closet (hers) inside the bathroom and moving the new bathroom door forward by 12 inches. She will want to change her clothes in the bathroom rather than in the open part of the trailer, so this design will work out well.

My wife is also concerned about not having enough storage, so I will increase the size of the overhead and underbunk storage by more than 12 inches in width while still leaving enough room to walk down the middle aisle. (The gray areas in the drawing indicate all the locations for storage).

In measuring the interior, I learned a few interesting things. First, the interior of a 23' Safari Twin is only 18 feet 8 inches long by 7 feet 5 inches wide, so the extra 4' 4" must account for the length of the hitch and bumper! A bit of a dissappointment, but I should have known...

The other interesting thing I learned is the original layout has the middle aisle off center by 4 - 5 inches (More on the stove/sink-side than the refrigerator-side), which I thought was the case when I first stepped into Hope, but didn't fully realize it until I started to measure for the new layout. Since I love symmetry, I look forward to installing the new layout perfectly centered with the twin bunks and storage cabinets.

The next step is to get my wife to approve the bathroom design, approve having me design and build the custom shower unit and then have her pick out the new toilet and sink, so I can keep moving forward.

Lastly, I ordered POR-15 Marine Clean from Amazon.com, which should arrive on Tuesday, so next weekend will be spent cleaning the interior on Saturday then going kayaking on Lake Pleasant on Sunday for Father's Day. My how time flies when having fun!

Have a great week everyone!

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Kei... I would like to put a question out there regarding an oven. Does anyone ever use theirs and could that space be better suited for something else?

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Old 06-09-2014, 10:16 AM   #68
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Have you had an opportunity to look at the photos I posted with the glossy white panels and the teak and holly floor?

I'm hoping to be able to purchase these type of panels and doors and greatly appreciate it if you can point me to a distributor. Same thing for the teak and holly flooring. Any guidance will be most appreciative!



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I'm in the NW and have dealt with Edensaw in the past. You may find a supplier closer to you. Google "teak holly plywood."

Marine Plywood- Teak and Holly Plywood | Edensaw Woods Ltd

I don't know about gloss white panels, but there are probably many ways to accomplish that look with laminate or paint. Really smooth painted finish on plywood will require sanding sealer, probably multiple coats with sanding in between coats. Mucho labor. I'd go with laminate. A glossy finish will show every scuff.

You can google "white laminate plywood" and get all sorts of ideas. Also try "white laminate honeycomb." Honeycomb core panels would save a lot of weight as opposed to plywood for your bulkheads. You could also laminate your own panels if you have the skills, tools and shop space.

Teak trim is available in a lot of configurations from several suppliers. Seateak is one brand I'm familiar with. You can get it at West Marine.

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Google "marine teak trim."

I love yacht interiors and prefer the "downeast" look which is quite simple and classic. I will offer a suggestion. Keep it simple! You are working with a very small space, and a lot of ideas will work in larger spaces but will look overdone and cheesy in a small space. Do a google images search for "down east yacht interiors" and concentrate on smaller boats, both power and sail. It's a classic look, and actually pretty easy to fabricate. Something like this:



Search google images for "Morris Yachts" and "Hinckley Yachts." They are two Maine builders who do beautiful classic interiors. The image above is a Morris sailboat.
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I'm in the NW and have dealt with Edensaw in the past. You may find a supplier closer to you. Google "teak holly plywood." ....
Search google images for "Morris Yachts" and "Hinckley Yachts." They are two Maine builders who do beautiful classic interiors. The image above is a Morris sailboat.
WOW! Thank you Gnorts for all the great information! I'm convinced that the look and feel we are going for and will achieve is similar to that Morris Sailboat! I can't wait to start researching and building my Bill of Materials although I'm sure I will need to negotiate the budget with my wife, but I'm certain she will love this look and will complement her creative interior design (She's very talented with that stuff! Right honey?... )

Thank you again!

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Love that look! If you're looking for varnish you should check out Le Tonkinois. It's a French varnish that's tung oil based and all natural. Since there are no driers in it it's flexible, which means it won't get those small stress cracks from bumping down the road. I've used it on wooden boats, furniture and will be using it on our AS when the time comes, and best of all it's really goof-proof. I get mine from American Rope & Tar. Check out their photo gallery: http://www.tarsmell.com Click image for larger version

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