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Old 01-25-2010, 03:31 PM   #15
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is this the same trailer that's already had the floor removed with a saws all...

and is being used as a uhaul?

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...-ca-60449.html

just cut the rear end open, like a loaf of bread and roll in the booty !

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Yes! We were just going to take the whole thing down to California and work on it there (sun vs. rain), but ultimately they were going to be used in the Airstream.
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Old 01-25-2010, 03:42 PM   #16
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But this does mess with the value of an Airstream. You're going to lose the difference when you sell. Might as well put $$ into it and appreciate the value of good equipment yourself.
The re-sell value is less relevant in our case. The interior was irretrievable, and we wanted absolute surety that there was no mold, or freeloading rodents/bugs then original interior can afford.

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An Airstream doesn't have the 24' counter depths that match up with domestic appliances.
We're working with a blank slate because we are not confined to the original layout. However, that's a very good point.

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I started affirming the shell-off idea. The distance between the ribs (rivet lines) is roughly equal to the width of the door. The door is designed to fit within the average rib spacing. So you really can't go in through the wall any better than you could the door.
Excellent point!! So we'd have to cut out ribs...

I'm looking for the paper I wrote the dimensions of the equipment on... Also, I'm going to post some photos, and video shortly.
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ok, so the 'stream will eventually be a commercial kitchen/food thing?

or will those appliances just be part of the air-hut once it is livable?

lots of issues.

commercial kitchen redos are very involved.

power, water, 3 sinks, the weight, the ventilation, the windows, the CODEs and so on...

all doable but not anything like the typical rv rehab, EVEN as a shell off restoration.
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now about those applicances, here's a true story.

a friend wanted to start a coffee roasting business years ago,

so he ordered this expensive large heavy roasting machine from the FINEST italian maker of these things...

months passed and thousands of dollars later the machine arrived.

the problem was it was MASSIVE and would not fit into ANY door on his house.

and there was almost NO way to open up the house enough to get this thing into his basement...

so he hired a welder/boilermaker who proceeded to CUT this expensive hand built custom roasting machine into 2 pieces...

btw there were only 2 or 3 of these machines anywhere outside of italy at the time.

once the 2 pieces were in the basement the welder/boilermaker put it back together.

and a premium speciality roaster was born.

roasting began and now, years later this machine was the beginning of the 2nd largest coffee roasting company in the state...

(folgers is the largest)

of course they now have a large factory building with many roasters but the original machine is STILL in the family house...
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so maybe u should consider wacking the stove in 2, IF u are truely committed...

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Old 01-25-2010, 03:49 PM   #18
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Deconstruct the appliances. Will the door come off? Compressor and box off, get it in and then put back together. Split the case on the refrig. REassemble with a seam in the back? Appliances can usually be taken apart and reassembled more easily than the Airstream.
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Old 01-25-2010, 04:48 PM   #19
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Are we talking a pro stove? If it's not purchased yet, how about separate wall oven & cooktop? They are both available in professional styles & already propane usable. I used to work for a wholesale kitchen distributor. Many of the "professional" appliances we sold were not UL approved for commercial use. (Wolf, Thermador, Bocuse)

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Rough crowd... Although the convertible idea has me intrigued. I wonder if ZipDee could make a giant retractible soft top. Hrmmm, maybe better to contact Jeep for that job?
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Looks like someone has already come up with a solution. Pop down the top and throw the appliance over the side...



JeepStream? AirJeep? Maybe this one is better left OFF the drawing board. How 'bout them axles though?


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Old 01-26-2010, 12:52 AM   #22
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ok, so the 'stream will eventually be a commercial kitchen/food thing?
Well, between us chickens, it's for a TV show. We want it to be up to code as long as we're doing all the hard work, but it's not imperative.


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now about those applicances, here's a true story.

a friend wanted to start a coffee roasting business years ago,

so he ordered this expensive large heavy roasting machine from the FINEST italian maker of these things...

months passed and thousands of dollars later the machine arrived.

the problem was it was MASSIVE and would not fit into ANY door on his house.

and there was almost NO way to open up the house enough to get this thing into his basement...

so he hired a welder/boilermaker who proceeded to CUT this expensive hand built custom roasting machine into 2 pieces...

btw there were only 2 or 3 of these machines anywhere outside of italy at the time.

once the 2 pieces were in the basement the welder/boilermaker put it back together.

and a premium speciality roaster was born.

roasting began and now, years later this machine was the beginning of the 2nd largest coffee roasting company in the state...

(folgers is the largest)

of course they now have a large factory building with many roasters but the original machine is STILL in the family house...
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What a FANTASTIC story!! Thanks, it made me laugh since it's SO familiar...
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:56 AM   #23
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Deconstruct the appliances. Will the door come off? Compressor and box off, get it in and then put back together. Split the case on the refrig. REassemble with a seam in the back? Appliances can usually be taken apart and reassembled more easily than the Airstream.

I think this idea is worth pursuing, I'll ask our equipment guy to let me know what he thinks. I suspect he'll think we need even more expensive equipment :-).
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Old 01-26-2010, 01:01 AM   #24
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Are we talking a pro stove? If it's not purchased yet, how about separate wall oven & cooktop? They are both available in professional styles & already propane usable. I used to work for a wholesale kitchen distributor. Many of the "professional" appliances we sold were not UL approved for commercial use. (Wolf, Thermador, Bocuse)

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Commercial. Good question though, I totally get what you're saying about "pro" kitchen equipment that's really for domestic use...

No oven, so you're right, I bet we could get the cook top off, the bottom is really just like a big shelf for pans... We had the gas professionally changed out for propane use.

It's a Wolf stove, I'll see if I can get the model number, that might give me additional clues :-). The vendor that switched it over to propane might be able to advise me as well.

I'm so inspired!!
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Looks like someone has already come up with a solution. Pop down the top and throw the appliance over the side...



JeepStream? AirJeep? Maybe this one is better left OFF the drawing board. How 'bout them axles though?


Sorry. Bored and having way too much fun with Photoshop.
Oh, MAN that's AWSOME!!! You had me going, but it's pretty freakin brilliant.
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Make a removable roof panel. Make the hole where the air conditioner would go, then the seams would not be visible from the ground. Cut out the roof and any ribs to get the hole big enough to drop the appliances in from above, and then rivet a strip of aluminum about 4 inches wide all around the piece you removed. Then when you put it back together you have a flange to calk & screw the removed section back into the trailer. Good luck, Brian.
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Make a removable roof panel. Make the hole where the air conditioner would go, then the seams would not be visible from the ground. Cut out the roof and any ribs to get the hole big enough to drop the appliances in from above, and then rivet a strip of aluminum about 4 inches wide all around the piece you removed. Then when you put it back together you have a flange to calk & screw the removed section back into the trailer. Good luck, Brian.

I really like this idea.

Maybe replace the panel with a skylight? Not sure what effect that would have on stability, probably little to none? Easier to get the equipment out later if required...
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