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Old 03-07-2009, 07:26 PM   #15
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Interesting Andy.... I didn't note any unusual motions with my (limited currently) travel with the single axle Tradewind (24ft).... even with it's poor (soon to be replaced) single axle. I could see how this motion could be set up, especially with the poor suspensions of the '60's and if the trailer had a light tongue weight......

I think the earlier models were kinda light... I'd stay light. You might also email the owner of "Ike" and ask about their experience.

That said, I do like my tandem set up on my 26' Argosy. If you do go tandem, check out the 50's slant back fender cut outs (CA models?) or the inverted "shallow triangle" that AS used on these years. They just look right to me.
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Old 03-07-2009, 09:12 PM   #16
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David,

I added a converter to my '61 Overlander. It did not change the 110v/12v system(they are completely separate). I wired it into the 110 under the sink and used to 110 that was for the furnace-I was also replacing the furnace with a new 12v only furnace, I did not trust a 47 year old furnance. The converter charges the battery all the time when I'm hooked into 110, that way I can run any 12v item-stove vent fan, roof fan(by the PO), and furnace, because all of these items have been replace & only work with my 12v. None of these item work off the old 110/12v individual transformers because they've been replaced.

I found that without the converter, my battery power did not last very long.

There are some forums members here that have had good luck with their old transformers on the
se three items with this 110v/12v system-but I have not.
Yes, this. Rick is definitely more experienced than I am here and speaks words of wisdom. The previous owner of my trailer, our good Forum friend Terry AKA Overlander63, had already added in the conveter/charger onto my trailer, and it has worked just fine for me. At some point in the future, I will probably change out to one of the modern converters such as the Intellipower, but for now I'm good. The trailer was the "Land Yacht" model, which was not the top-of-the-line "International" but nor was it the base model, so it was equipped with both the 12VDC and the 110VAC systems. The converter/charger effectively bridges the gap between those two systems, and here in modern times, I wouldn't own a trailer without it.

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Old 03-07-2009, 09:29 PM   #17
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Serial number was 72XX. Cant remember the last two numbers. Will try to find them when I get back home
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Old 03-08-2009, 12:23 AM   #18
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A 72XX serial number would make the trailer a 1956 Overlander: 56Overlander

It may be titled as a '57 if that was the year the then new trailer was first titled. At least I have heard of these things happening.
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Old 03-08-2009, 07:14 PM   #19
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Looked at the 63 overlander and it is in a lot better condition than mine, but my wife wants a total restoration updated Airstream, so I passed on it. It is listed in Montgomery Alabama craigslist. Very trailerable condtion. Some rust on the frame axles but also has some of the original paint. Inside has been painted. Owner is really a nice fellow and very forthright in describing the condition. If I have to take one completely apart will stick with the 56? Hope to get down again to see it this week and try to make some more decisions. See the complete axle assy will cost me 750 plus shipping plus I need wheels and tires. If I going to build from frame up may just have another frame built. Got the right people around here to do it and for a reasonable price. david
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:26 PM   #20
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I dunno - there is a thread here somewhere where a 28ft single axle Ambassador was redone with a new torflex axle.. I think the owners are happy with it. Single axles will give you more interior options (and lighter weight) too. Search "IKE" and the long thread will show up. Towards the end of the thread is the axle replacement.
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Marc,

Thank you for referencing our beloved "IKE" and acknowledging the work that we have put into him already. For the record, the trailer tows fantastic. I can tell you that if there is any danger in towing this trailer it is from not knowing that it is behind you. The change to a torsion on a single axle (reletively long) trailer is pretty simple to do and well the effort!
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Looked at the 63 overlander and it is in a lot better condition than mine, but my wife wants a total restoration updated Airstream, so I passed on it. It is listed in Montgomery Alabama craigslist. Very trailerable condtion. Some rust on the frame axles but also has some of the original paint. Inside has been painted. Owner is really a nice fellow and very forthright in describing the condition. If I have to take one completely apart will stick with the 56? Hope to get down again to see it this week and try to make some more decisions. See the complete axle assy will cost me 750 plus shipping plus I need wheels and tires. If I going to build from frame up may just have another frame built. Got the right people around here to do it and for a reasonable price. david
David,

PLease send me a PM and I can help you with getting the parts you need.
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:58 PM   #22
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Drove down to the Overlander today with the mindset to forget about it, clean it up, take some pictures, sell it, and buy a 78 31 airstream not too far from here. Took some tools to do a little recon knowing that with a little more info it would be a no brainer walking away from this one. This history on this trailer is it has been in one family for a long time. First one brother alcoholic lived and died in it, then a second alcoholic brother lived and died in it. It was then bought by another brother, my father in-law who was the finest husband and father I have ever known . When I gave his Eulogy, the funeral director cried and he did not know him. I have never known a man who gave so much with so little gratitude. He bought this for a son with a mental illness to live in. In 40 years the Airstream had no one in it who would lift a hand to improve it or maintain it. When I got there it was filled with tons of storage junk. I put some pb blaster on the wheel lugs when I got there hoping that I could get the lug nuts off later. As I started emptying the drawers noticed how they were dovetailed. I had taken some WD 40 down hoping the windows would open, and after a while decided to try the windows before the wd 40 treatment, 1st one worked and so did the rest, with nothing after at least 10 years without being touched. I felt my self getting sucked in more and more by this trailer. After an hour or so emptying junk, burning waste; decided to try the wheel nuts and they broke loose and came off without a problem. Getting sucked in farther. I really didnt want my wife to see this thing inside before I got all the junk out of it, ( really didnt want her to nix the deal at this point) she shows up and goes inside; then left without a word. Later she came back and said, "you know I like the layout, I see some potential" The vacuum getting worse. Decided to try to take the wheels off if I could. I jacked up the axle (didn't) break and got the wheels off without a hitch. It is getting unmerciful, the sting. I finished emptying the trailer getting the non original frig out and everything in the cabinets. I then pulled up some of the floor repair and saw the frame looked pretty good, nothing like the exposed frame. But finally when finished and I am thinking more and more, I can bring this thing back, my wife brings out an american flag her father flew over his modest beach home and was so proud of. He was a ww2 vet, and died years later from radiation exposure he got from removing radioactive waste from a cyclotron that the Japanese were using to try to create a nuclear bomb before we did (never heard of that in history before I met her dad) do a google search. Done deal after the flag. Lord willing this one will roll again. Have the wheels back home with me tonight. Hope I can figure out how to post the pics I took today.
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:03 PM   #23
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the serial number I posted was wrong (getting old) it was 7572 not 72XX
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:11 PM   #24
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6 hours of work

I sure was hoping I could outgrow this.
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I think there's important family history with this Airstream. Your father-in-law must have been a very good man and bringing this trailer back to life will mean so much to you & your wife because of him.

Is that a folding Leg-O-Matic chair in the top left picture lying on it's back outside of the trailer to the right? If so, save it, I bet it came with the trailer new.

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Old 03-11-2009, 08:54 PM   #26
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Rick. Did you call about the 21??? What an eye you have for detail. I looked at that chair and told my wife "this is a really great chair" she told me you will never fix it, throw it away. ( I didnt) put it in the barn. I will sure go pic it up next trip when I bring the trailer to its new home. Thanks much. david
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Rick. Did you call about the 21??? What an eye you have for detail. I looked at that chair and told my wife "this is a really great chair" she told me you will never fix it, throw it away. ( I didnt) put it in the barn. I will sure go pic it up next trip when I bring the trailer to its new home. Thanks much. david
David, I did call, I'm going to look at it Sunday, thank you for the lead. Also, there may have been more than one chair. My '61 Overlander came with a folding table to use for eating, I purchased a couple of Leg-O-Matic chairs from ebay to go with the table.

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Old 03-11-2009, 10:35 PM   #28
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Hi David
Looks like you are in a heap o' trouble with that little voice in your head telling you to walk away...just walk away.......but you keep finding more and more possiblilities and things to love about this trailer.

I can understand why as your story in post #22 tells so well. This trailer has a incredible family history...maybe not one I would tell to a future buyer, but there could be a very happy ending here.

Thanks for the photos. I also have been looking at them way too long and searching for details as to its past life and future possibilities. It is a very interesting model with great potential in my opinion.

I own a 1962 and there are many things that were still the same after all those years. Floorplan, hardware, counters very much the same.

Anyway, I understand why you are being pulled into this project. As they say, RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!
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