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Old 06-24-2014, 07:49 PM   #43
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Cheap tools get people hurt. I never buy that HF junk.


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I had a new HF 7" angle grinder pop and start on fire right in my hands. I quickly threw it out the shop door into the parking lot so it wouldn't stink up the shop while it burned.
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Old 06-24-2014, 09:25 PM   #44
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Just don't buy anything from h f that might kill you. I won't buy any jacks from them. My grandpa was killed by a broken jack while moving his jack stands. Spend the money when personal safety is involved.

Of course I also live by the maxim:
Safety third after having fun and looking cool.


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Old 06-24-2014, 11:27 PM   #45
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To my mind I can spend a lot at home stores or online for better quality Chinese made tools or a lot less for slightly less quality Chinese made tools. Anything made in the USA is a freak if made at all.
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Old 06-24-2014, 11:32 PM   #46
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Sk makes very good American made tools.

Just sayin...

http://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=Sk...TRC2.Xsk+tools


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Old 06-25-2014, 01:19 AM   #47
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Just to pile on a bit..........

Most of my hand tools are German made (WIHA and Knip-X) and they have yet to fail me. I don't use enough sockets to warrant Snap-On, but I do have an extensive set of USA Craftsman sockets and wrenches.

I have found that if you look at the tool tags carefully, you will see that the better stuff at the big box stores and HF are actually made in Taiwan, not the Mainland, which is denoted as 'CHINA', which I avoid like the plague.

Unfortunately, almost every battery powered tool now is from CHINA, even Bosch.........with the exception of Festool. My battery tools get so much use, that they are classified in the 'use up and discard' category, but in the last 15 years of RV work, I have only replaced a drill/driver once (Milwaukee) and several battery packs that would no longer hold a charge.

I must admit that I bought one tool at HF that I use daily (made in TAIWAN though). That is a 1/4" socket handle that swivels to become a nut driver with the socket attached. It is actually a quality product, and it must have been a mistake to have it at HF, because I never saw it there again (on the 3 tripe there that I'll admit to )
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Old 06-25-2014, 05:26 AM   #48
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The truth be told…..After an American made woman cost me a fortune, I can't afford great tools.
A cheap tile saw saved me lots of money, and I will most likely not need it again.
But yeah…when it's my job, I buy the best.
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Old 06-25-2014, 05:27 AM   #49
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Old 06-25-2014, 06:28 AM   #50
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I bought a circular saw from them for $30 or something. For the twice a year I use it, it does a good job (and I bought a good blade for it from Lowe's or Home Depot). If I were planning to use it more than that, then I wouldn't screw around with HF; I'd buy a real one. My drill, wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers, etc., are all name brand tools - I use those a lot more, so I buy something I trust more. Or if I know I'm going to be putting a heck of a load on it, like something I'm going to be torquing down very tightly, even if I'm only planning to do it once, I'll buy good stuff.
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Old 06-25-2014, 06:33 AM   #51
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Or you could have spent $5 to $15 for one at a garage sale.
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Old 06-25-2014, 07:08 AM   #52
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I got a good chuckle out of that, but my version is slightly different. I bought the same polisher there for $29 two years ago and bought the warranty that everyone told me I HAD TO HAVE because I was going to go through four or five of 'em just polishing the AS. I made it through the AS, then two of my buddies used it on their boats, then my Excursion, then my wife's car, then my daughter's car and half of my boat before the motor brushes wore out. No worries, an extra set was included when I purchased it, so I swapped them out and in 30 seconds, I was polishing the boat again.

This thing won't die and I have a DeWalt and a B&D version as well, but they're one speed and I like the control of the cheapo HF one.
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Or you could have spent $5 to $15 for one at a garage sale.
Assuming you are responding to me (not enough people use the quote button here): Yes, I suppose I could have spent a Saturday traipsing from yard sale to yard sale looking for a circular saw, and then hoping it actually worked.

Or I could have been doing something fun.
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I will admit I'm something of a tool snob too. Retired now, but close to 40 years as a machinist, I used "good" tools, and I have a pretty decent variety of tools in my shop.
As an example though, I have some Starrett and Mitutoyo calipers and micrometers ( even have a close to 40 year old "Craftsman Industrial series" micrometer that is actually very good )....but I also have some of the inexpensive HF digital calipers. I'll just say this, if one of you fellas was over here working in my shop, and needed to measure something, I would hand you the $15 HF caliper to use before I would hand over my Starrett.
And yes, someone mentioned SK handtools. When it comes to sockets, my 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2" are "old" Craftsman, and they have worked well, but my 3/4" drive sockets are S-K. They too are good, but I will admit that I rarely need sockets that big.

As to getting hurt from sockets breaking, over the years, I've hurt myself more times from bolts snapping than I have from tools failing.
I have a 40" long 3/4" drive breaker bar that came from Northern tool, which is pretty much like a HF, and actually this breaker bar seems to be well enough made. I've leaned on it pretty darned hard a few times, and so far, so good. Again, it's rare for me to need the big stuff like that, so I figure it makes sense to buy at this end of the price spectrum for these kind of tools.

I'll admit the "one" tool from HF that has in my case proven to be the biggest piece of junk ever is the $15 heat gun they sell. That cheap SOB only lasts a short time, then it too is ready for the "trash can fire". I use a heat gun fairly often though.
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Another interesting item is the wireless drive way alarm that sells for less than $20.00

I have one at the house and also carry one in the trailer that I put out sometimes when we boondock in remote spots.

It will detect a passing horse at 75 feet, In case you need a horse detector
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Where does the notion of disposability come from?


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