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Old 06-23-2014, 05:20 PM   #29
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Yes, borrow a good one from a friend, or brother like I.

Do you have any idea just how much china garbage
is in our landfills that shouldn't be there because
its junk? There should be an anti junk law.
if there was anti-junk law, none of us would be camping in hard sided campers from Ohio and Indiana !!
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Old 06-23-2014, 06:07 PM   #30
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if there was anti-junk law, none of us would be camping in hard sided campers from Ohio and Indiana !!

At least you can fix them.
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Old 06-23-2014, 06:14 PM   #31
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I bought a multi-tool from HF, for twenty something dollars, instead of a Feign multi-tool for $350. The thirty dollar tool has saved me time, and saved me from having to call in a pro. I have only needed it 5 times this year. I feel like it paid for itself by using it once. When it breaks, I'll buy a new one
SOMETIMES, a homeowner doesn't need the BEST tool, and sometimes can't afford the best tool. I'd rather give $20 to China, than $350 to Sweden, or pay an American $50 an hour.
That multi tool has been a life save MANY times . Today I used it to cut out additional rotted flooring in the AS.
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Old 06-23-2014, 09:14 PM   #32
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I have never regretted buying quality tools...T hat being said, I hate to buy Airstrem renovation specific tools that will last for more than a single renovation--don't EVER want to be tempted to start another one...
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:12 PM   #33
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Cheap tools get people hurt. I never buy that HF junk.


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Old 06-24-2014, 04:25 PM   #34
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Sorry, but I disagree with that. Stupidity gets people hurt. Dumb folks can even hurt themselves with the best tools money can buy.

To put it another way, if they can't do the job with an inexpensive tool, they probably are not capable to have tools in the first place.
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:26 PM   #35
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My brother Tom always told me it if your livelihood or life depends upon it, don't buy it at HF. He also believed that HF has good tools provided you buy the ones that don't have any moving parts.

I've bought trailer lights, zip ties (great for securing Zip Dee awnings), plastic gloves and those $14 angle grinders and cut off wheels from HF. The wire welder I bought was p.o.c., not strong enough to weld anything but small, hobby stuff.

When we re-did our Airstream the best tool I got was short, double ended drill bits from HKW supply... they are also available at Amazon.com.

They are sharp, stay sharp and everything that Irwin says they do, they do. They are about $25-30 a package. Use them in a high speed drill that you can get at Harbor Freight
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:30 PM   #36
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My brother Tom always told me it if your livelihood or life depends upon it, don't buy it at HF.
Fair enough on that. If the tool is mission critical, I would not count on HF tools.
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It just cracks me up how it see the owners of the top of the line travel trailers always refer to buying the absolute worst tool there are. I would recommend at least going to Lowes to buy your tools.


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Old 06-24-2014, 06:13 PM   #38
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SK tools are a reasonably priced Mostly made in America brand.

I like their wrenches, screwdrivers, and sockets better than my Snap On and at least as good as my Matco tools. SK ratchets kind of suck though.

These will sell for about half of the premium brands.

If a person uses their tools quality matters. I have never broken an SK, Spap On, or Matco socket. When I used to use a lot of Craftsman I broke a lot of em. A person can get hurt when a socket breaks.
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It just cracks me up how it see the owners of the top of the line travel trailers always refer to buying the absolute worst tool there are. I would recommend at least going to Lowes to buy your tools.


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And Airstreams are top of the line? Not from the laundry list of complaints I have seen! HF just like Lowe's sells tools made to a certain price point. Based on your recommendation I would be better off only buying German built tools from a specialty tool supply house.

You buy the tool that suits your need for the project at hand. I have a $75 hickory handled 26 ounce framing hammer from the 1970's, I would not recommend trying to us it to put picture hangers in...

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Harbor Freight

The German made Knip-X pliers are excellent

There are still very good American made tools, problem is people dont spend the money to buy em.

As a rule I buy American when it is available and I can afford it because I think it is the right thing to do.

I try not to buy products from China because the cumulative effect of such buying is killing our nation. Sometimes economics force my hand, but not too often.

I seldom go to Harbor Freight but I have.
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Overall my luck with HF tools has been excellent. I have grinders, buffers, half inch drill,
their imitation of a sawzall and numerous others including a replacement air pump that went on an old craftsman compressor.
Probably the single most useful $30 tool is the multi tool. While it would be nice to fill the shop with snap on, DeWalt, Makita etc I simply would not be able to have all these tools when I need them at he high end prices.

For the home user and shade tree AS repair person they are usually adequate.

My biggest problem is there is no near by store so I usually stop when on vacation and then haul all that stuff around for weeks. I must be getting most of what I need because the cost of the average stop has dropped from $200 down below $100
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