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Old 06-23-2014, 08:56 AM   #15
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Old 06-23-2014, 09:36 AM   #16
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I acquired a Snap-On tool chest (Harley 100th Anniversary) and contents for the price of a car. None of the tools have ever given me any problems or broken. I have supplemented with a few HF tools specifically for the trailer as I read about the occasional vanishing tools or the need to share with a fellow traveler.

I also have a Craftsman tool chest at another location filled with their tools from when they were made in the USA. Now they have no warranty on their tools without a receipt. I bought these twenty years ago.... Gone are the days of walking in with a broken socket and they would immediately hand you a new one.

I needed a specific impact socket to install the ProPride (one part wanted 250 ft pounds of torque). The cost of the socket at Snap-On online was more than the entire set of the impact sockets at HF. After the initial installation, that socket may get used annually on the two nuts in question to check the torque. At my age, I might use it fifteen times. It is hard to justify the Snap-On price for this occasional use.

Due to the safety issues associated with the wheels and the tires, I do use a better quality torque wrench, extension and socket on the wheel lug nuts (125 ft pounds) as I check those often.
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Old 06-23-2014, 09:44 AM   #17
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Take Snap On as an example, new for say $250, ebay used $40. A good alternative if you have time to wait for delivery.
Actually, that implies that Snap On tools are overpriced, since the resale value is so low.
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:59 AM   #18
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I also have a Craftsman tool chest at another location filled with their tools from when they were made in the USA. Now they have no warranty on their tools without a receipt. I bought these twenty years ago.... Gone are the days of walking in with a broken socket and they would immediately hand you a new one.
Last week I took a 1/4" drive Craftsman rachet which was slipping to Sears in Missoula MT and they simply handed me another from their box of replacements. They then rebuild the old ones for the next customer. So, the replacement policy still is working at least at some stores. No receipt needed.
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I've been looking at buying a turbine HVLP sprayer system at HF. It's about $100 on sale. Real HVLP turbines will set you back at least $300 for a used setup, and I only need to paint a few things. Reviews online lead me to believe it will work for what I want. Why pay more for the best tool if a 'good enough' tool will do the job? And both options are cheaper than paying someone who knows what they're doing
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I've been looking at buying a turbine HVLP sprayer system at HF. It's about $100 on sale. Real HVLP turbines will set you back at least $300 for a used setup, and I only need to paint a few things. Reviews online lead me to believe it will work for what I want. Why pay more for the best tool if a 'good enough' tool will do the job? And both options are cheaper than paying someone who knows what they're doing
If you know what your doing a cheap one wont suite you.
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Old 06-23-2014, 01:18 PM   #21
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If you know what your doing a cheap one wont suite you.
We all get that you're not a fan of Chinese products. Isn't there a more constructive way to contribute to the discussion?
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Hmmm, I thought I would weigh in on this discussion between tool purists, and tool pragmatists, but then reread the original post, and realized that the question was not whether one should buy tools there or not, but whether we are all stock-holders.

First I got nervous, thinking I must have missed the memo, and that I might be the only Forum member who is not a stock holder, but after a little research, I discovered that unfortunately, it is a privately held company, so it is difficult for one to become a stockholder. If they do go for an IPO, this thread can be continued. In the mean-time observe the following, and lighten up a little.

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Old 06-23-2014, 02:26 PM   #23
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We all get that you're not a fan of Chinese products. Isn't there a more constructive way to contribute to the discussion?
Yes, borrow a good one from a friend, or brother like I.

Do you have any idea just how much china garbage
is in our landfills that shouldn't be there because
its junk? There should be an anti junk law.
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I've been looking at buying a turbine HVLP sprayer system at HF. It's about $100 on sale. Real HVLP turbines will set you back at least $300 for a used setup, and I only need to paint a few things. Reviews online lead me to believe it will work for what I want. Why pay more for the best tool if a 'good enough' tool will do the job? And both options are cheaper than paying someone who knows what they're doing
I picked one of those HVLP combos up when it was on sale for $79.99 and it's totally worth it. It's painted countless things with no issues at all and when it fails, I'll buy another one as it's a lot easier to run an extension cord than it is to drag a 30 gallon compressor everywhere I need it.
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It's nearly impossible to find Made in the USA tools anymore. Look at all the craftsman tools on the self right now. Most are not USA. There are still some of the slow moving stock that is from a USA foundry, but those foundries are all shutting down. If you're working on something on a late saturday afternoon and NEED something, you will become real pragmatic about where it came from.

Snap-on, Mac, all the premium brands, have a significant amount of Asian iron in their catalogs.

What we all should be really concerned about is they can make good tools. When a company comes in and specs out the right iron, treatment, milling, and finish, they can build good tools. Their is no way a USA foundry can compete with them on price. That's what's wrong. They can also make a socket for $0.35 cost because that is what most people buy.

I have most of the made in USA tools I want to own, so I'll share a secret. You can still buy USA made tools on ebay.
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