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Old 06-27-2016, 07:47 PM   #29
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Add ballast to the rear?
I did that years ago with my Hi-Lo 23'.
The TW was 175 lbs. over spec, with just the full propane, and two batteries.
So, I bolted two 40 lbs. lead bars to the aft frame, using three each aircraft hardware bolts. (MS-21250-10, DSC-97-10 nuts, and hardened 'penny washers'.
Worked like a charm, and I drove it for over six years like that. It was a well balanced trailer.

BTW: In my previous 'thread' above, I said that my traveling weight was 7400+#.
It was 7600 and change.
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Old 06-27-2016, 09:19 PM   #30
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Save yourself a lot of grief and upgrade to a diesel P/U. I had similar problems so I went with a F250 Ford Lariat. All weight and towing problems solved.
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Old 06-27-2016, 09:35 PM   #31
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Just weighed my tongue with my new Sherline Scale:

1150 lbs.

You've got to be kidding me, there is almost nothing in the front of the trailer.

Specs say it is supposed to be 885 lbs. with batteries and propane.

This is too much on my truck, I have a 2015 30' Flying Cloud Bunk.

What can be done?
Wait a minute. You took a trailer with a tongue weight of nearly 900 lbs, added probably 250 lbs of steel in the form of a hitch, and are surprised that the tongue weight increased to 1150 lbs?
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Old 06-27-2016, 09:56 PM   #32
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The OP can even swap his new 30' for my 20+ year old 25 ft and solve his tongue weight problem.
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Old 06-27-2016, 09:58 PM   #33
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Wait a minute. You took a trailer with a tongue weight of nearly 900 lbs, added probably 250 lbs of steel in the form of a hitch, and are surprised that the tongue weight increased to 1150 lbs?
Yeah, registration to Airforms does not state a mathematics prerequisite.

Is the Propride really 250 lbs? Between that and my custom roof rack, I think I've screwed myself.
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Old 06-27-2016, 10:11 PM   #34
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Based on how much lifting and jacking mine took to put in place, 250 pounds sounds about right.

I think the local UPS driver is still a bit po'd about that delivery. He had to use the dolly to gut it to my door.

Ask Sean how heavy they are...he'll tell you.


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Old 06-27-2016, 10:19 PM   #35
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Hey Ted - my 27FB says it has a hitch weight of 835# (or 833, something like that) but with the ProPride on the CAT scales (and 2 full 30# propane tanks, full FW tank, fully loaded for camping) it's actually 1080#. My 2.5" receiver (3/4T diesel pickup) is rated for 1500# of tongue weight (though the AS manual has confusing language about tongue weight limits of 1000# or in no case above the limit of the tow vehicle's receiver....).

Have you checked out the Ford Excursion forums? There's some discussion there about the 800-something pound hitch weight limit being due to length of vehicle and independent rear suspension. I don't know how accurate that is or whether you could just upgrade your receiver to address this but you may want to check it out for additional info.

It should go without saying - I'm clearly not an engineer - I'm more asking whether an upgrade to the receiver is a potential solution than actually recommending that....

Good luck!
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Old 06-27-2016, 10:27 PM   #36
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Crank up the WD bars a bit more and just be sure you don't exceed the tire rating of the rear axle. Maybe add air bags to boost rear spring capacity. Load the stuff from the truck bed to the rear of the trailer. That's about all you can do except get a bigger truck.
Or a smaller trailer.
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Old 06-27-2016, 10:46 PM   #37
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Sounds like a Dodge Ram 2500 is in order !
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Old 06-27-2016, 10:46 PM   #38
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It's goes back to my original question not one sole in the RV industry can answer:

What good is a trailer that sleeps 8 if the only thing that can tow it is a pickup?
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Old 06-27-2016, 11:01 PM   #39
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Okay, let's start over. Your Airstream hitch weight is normal, and less of that will be added to the truck with weight distribution set.

What is the weight of passengers and gear in the tow vehicle, and how much of it is carried behind the rear axle? That's the problem, what might be done to reduce it?
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Old 06-28-2016, 06:52 AM   #40
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Save yourself a lot of grief and upgrade to a diesel P/U. I had similar problems so I went with a F250 Ford Lariat. All weight and towing problems solved.
I would think the Excursion is better than a F250 for towing.

First, it is built on a F250 platform with slightly softer rear springs, so you have all the beef of the F250 but with less rough ride at the hitch.

Then you have all the glass and body over the rear so it is actually a heavier tow vehicle. Last, it has the same diesel engine.

Many people don't realize the Excursion was very much a heavy duty truck.

So my plan now is to make it work. I do have CAT slips I will look up taken fully loaded. I am convinced with the proper set up and moving weight around this TV can be within specs to the book.
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Sounds like you are aware of all the angles so work with it and go camping! You have a great tow vehicle and camper. Just enjoy.
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Sounds like you are aware of all the angles so work with it and go camping! You have a great tow vehicle and camper. Just enjoy.
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