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Old 07-21-2015, 08:05 PM   #15
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I had a Fiamma on my 25' Int'l CCD and i was concerned, although I never had a failure. The new 30' Classic though would not permit me to use a Fiamma because of lack of access to the rear storage and the blocking of the emergency exit while the bikes were installed. I went to a front receiver on my F-250 and it has worked out well for us. I also like the fact that if the Admiral and I want to leave the trailer and explore elsewhere we can take our bikes with us.


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Old 02-06-2016, 11:07 AM   #16
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Picking up our 28 FC in 2 weeks with Fiamma rack installed. I will trust the warranty but look for a place to mount an emergency strap as a back up. From what I understand, the large storage area in the rear twin allows access when bikes are not on the rack. I'm just not crazy about front hitches that catch all the bugs.

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Old 02-06-2016, 12:30 PM   #17
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We have been using the Fiamma rack since they came out without problems. Several cross-country trips all over the country. It is easy to use, the bikes stay clean, and the weight at the rear balances some weight off the somewhat heavy tongue weight.

We tow with a softly-sprung Ram 1500 hitched with a flexible tapered round w.d. bar hitch, and set our Michelin 16" tire pressure at 65 psi of the 80 psi maximum. Have not experienced cabinets breaking, screws loosing or pulling out inside our Airstream, or trouble with the bike rack.

We used a similar Fiamma rack on our VW Camper and extensive travel for many years without issues. They have been a good product for us.
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Old 02-07-2016, 06:33 AM   #18
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bikes inside

We haven't actually traveled with our Safari yet so I don't have any actual experience except watching my parents' preparations in the very distant past. Just wondering if it wouldn't be acceptable to put the bicycles inside the A/s on the floor or on a pad on one of the beds or couch? Normally the front wheels are easily removed and can utilize a smaller space. Tom
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Old 02-07-2016, 06:54 AM   #19
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We plan to start by carrying them in the bed of our truck, to see how that works out, but based on research, it sounds like some people also use something like this inside their AS:

Although I think carrying them inside the AS is an interesting idea, it seems like it could be a hassle for one night stops.
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Old 02-07-2016, 08:43 AM   #20
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SeaLevel, we carry that Recor Bike Stand with us to park our bikes in camp, and in the back of our pickup to take the bikes exploring away from camp. It will not hold the bikes upright traveling without a heavy strap looped around the bike frame and fastened to the bed of the truck.

Yes, I think for traveling place to place, bikes inside would be a hassle. And Murphy's Law suggests sooner or later they will damage the Airstream interior. We use the Airstream Fiamma rack when towing. Our bikes provide local touring for us most places we stop, so they must be convenient.
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:21 AM   #21
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For years Airstream said you could not carry bikes on the rear bumper of an Airstream.

I designed and install my rake over 10 years ago. If you look at it you will see the vertical load is carried by the bumper and the rotational load, the one most likely to cause fatigue failure, is carried by the straps secured to the windowsill.

It is just poor engineering to expect a cast fitting to survive prolonged shock loads. Yes a better alloy would prolong the life but not eliminate the problem. Some form of compliance, the straps, has to be designed into the system.
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:19 PM   #22
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Both of my brackets broke exactly as shown in the photographs. One broke the first time I used the rack. Fiamma claims I installed them incorrectly and refuses to warranty them. I have traveled about 15,000 miles since I bolted those brackets back in-place with the same two bikes on the rack. I have had no problems but I will never buy another Fiamma rack because they refuse to acknowledge that the part is defective and they want me to pay $50 for each new bracket. I have no assurance that the new brackets will not break like the orginal ones. They do not stand behind their product.
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Old 07-04-2016, 06:31 PM   #23
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I've studied the photographs and wonder why did only one of the two flanges break, and happened to the pin, or rivet, that connected both parts? From the photos it almost appears the the pin slipped downward over time ultimately letting go of the top flange. If so the the bottom flange would have to take the full load and also be subject to a significant torque leading to failure.

I have the same Fiamma rack. I noticed that I happened to install one arm with the pin, or rivet, where the head is on top. The other I installed where the head is on the bottom. That one hasn't slipped but I'll be keeping an eye on it. Otherwise both parts seem okay.

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