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Old 07-20-2015, 07:30 AM   #57
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Oh - I'm slow- CWF- I see that you were joking about getting the Armstrong repaired....
Well, sorta kidding... if the Armstrong is truly 'dead weight' for you, perhaps Top or someone else WOULD pay to have it shipped to them..... then once fixed, it would be great to have...

Please don't just trash it without trying to share...
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Well mine is coming down this weekend. I'll post it in the classifieds and see what happens.


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Old 07-21-2015, 08:31 PM   #59
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The one thing I am not completely satisfied with is the manual control air distribution ceiling assembly. It does the job but the actual vents, 4 of them 1 front and back and 1 on each side are just holes cut in the assembly with plastic doors that open and close. No directional vent louvers of any kind. Also the front vent get less air flow than the back and sides since the air must be funneled around the return air duct. This seems to cause the very front of trailer to heat up during day since the air flow does not reach that far. I am not sure about the side vents in a narrow trailer and I have these closed. Time will tell
Will covering the back vent force more air to the front?
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The new Dometic Brisk II is installed and works fine including the auxiliary drain kit. The one thing I am not completely satisfied with is the manual control air distribution ceiling assembly. It does the job but the actual vents, 4 of them 1 front and back and 1 on each side are just holes cut in the assembly with plastic doors that open and close. No directional vent louvers of any kind. Also the front vent get less air flow than the back and sides since the air must be funneled around the return air duct. This seems to cause the very front of trailer to heat up during day since the air flow does not reach that far. I am not sure about the side vents in a narrow trailer and I have these closed. Time will tell
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Dometic still make the older style air distribution box with directional vents. The older style is quieter and seems to flow more air.
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Dometic still make the older style air distribution box with directional vents. The older style is quieter and seems to flow more air.
Where would you be able to find these
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I don't have the PN off hand, but you can get it from Dometic. I'm sure you can get it from PPL, Camping World etc.
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I found this on Amazon. Check with Dometic to make sure it will work.
http://www.amazon.com/Dometic-310661.../dp/B005BOQ9ZK
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I found this on Amazon. Check with Dometic to make sure it will work.
http://www.amazon.com/Dometic-310661.../dp/B005BOQ9ZK
It won't work on the Brisk II

I sent a question to Dometic and here is their answer:

Good morning Don,

I do apologize there is only one air distribution cover available.

We appreciate this opportunity to address your situation and hope all of your future travels are trouble free. Please do not hesitate to contact us at any time to order parts or for further assistance.



Sincerely,
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The air conditioner in our 1990 34 ft died 65 days ago. We don't live close to any As dealer so we took it to Camping World & what a mistake!! They still haven't ordered the unit or the drain pan & cups. They have told us 2 about 2 different units & then said they won't work. At this point I'll just figure out the unit & parts to order & then decide if we should travel to the AS dealer in Columbia, SC 2 hour away for the install.

How do I know what unit will fit our trailer? Do I need to measure the opening on the roof or are units standard size? The original was a Coleman but am considering a 15000 BTU. Thanks to the posts above I now know the part # for the pan. Thanks in advance to all.

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The air conditioner in our 1990 34 ft died 65 days ago. We don't live close to any As dealer so we took it to Camping World & what a mistake!! They still haven't ordered the unit or the drain pan & cups. They have told us 2 about 2 different units & then said they won't work. At this point I'll just figure out the unit & parts to order & then decide if we should travel to the AS dealer in Columbia, SC 2 hour away for the install.

How do I know what unit will fit our trailer? Do I need to measure the opening on the roof or are units standard size? The original was a Coleman but am considering a 15000 BTU. Thanks to the posts above I now know the part # for the pan. Thanks in advance to all.

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Jane,

All RV roof A/C units are built to fit into your standard 14" X 14" roof opening, so you essentially have your choice of units to select. You will need a new interior air distribution box (ADB) to go with the new upper unit on the roof. You can get either 15K or 13.5K units.

The only other decision you have to make is whether to use manual controls located on the ADB or get an electronic thermostat, which will require some interior wiring.

I would not let Camping World change a light bulb in any RV.....and definitely NOT on an Airstream!!!!
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Old 08-22-2015, 03:34 PM   #67
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Lew,
Thank you for your response. I agree with the sentiment about Camping World.

Hmmm so all units are standard & I have the drain pan part # thanks to this thread & all of this information took me about 30 minutes to obtain. Note sure what Camping World's problem is. Either my husband will install or we will take to Out if Door Mart about 4 hours away after all of the trouble with CW. We were trying to have it done by them due to the 100 degree temps here & because they have easy access to the roof. We were hesitant about it but thought an air conditioner install would have been a fairly consistent process among trailers. Oh well - lesson learned.

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Old 08-23-2015, 12:22 AM   #68
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I'd give OODM a call and tell them what you have and what you want. They have a good reputation and can probably order what you'll need.
Tossed my Coleman about 2 years ago at start of full Monty, covered hole with sheetetal since, recently been prepping and research to be sure everything up there is ready for new dometic unit and have learned a lot.
Had to add reinforcement to roof, original hole was right behind a rib then nothing for 42", sheet metal alone can't support an air conditioner and the sag actually wore a hole through the roof skin . All fixed now.
Had to open up the hole a tiny bit, dometic calls for 14-1/4" pretty easy to do with a jug saw metal blade, ruler and framing square .
Old electrical wiring, old unit only used 120v, there wasn't a 12v run to the air conditioner, since I have the ceiling panels down I used 2 unused wires I had found earlier. I crimped on extensions to reach the air conditioner area. So there's 120v and 12v available now.
Original ac used the air distribution box for controlling the ac. This would be easiest way to set up the new unit because of the wiring needed for using a wall thermostat with the dometic. For them you have 3 options for controlling the ac;
1. Simple controls on the air distribution box no additional wiring needed except 12v supply.
2. Single zone LCD thermostat, for this you have to have 3 wires running from where the ac will be to where the thermostat will be, this will let you controll the ac only. There were 4 wires original to the trailer that were unused before , they went from near the ac through the walls and came out where the wires for the furnace came out for the furnace thermostat, take a look if they're there you can use them. If you want the SZLCD to control the furnace as well, so you would only need 1 thermostat vs 2, you have to get the 2 blue furnace wires to the ac area, they will run in the overhead in the wire bundle on the curb side getting to them may be possible through the side of the ac opening in the ceiling but would probably be pretty difficult without the panel dropped. Since my pannel was down I was able to get to them , cut them and splice extra length to feed the ac area. So now I've got 4 blue wires in the area , 2 blue in and. 2 blue going to the thermostat as original.
3. Climate control center II, you need this if you get an ac unit with heat pump or heat strips. To use this a phone line wire has to be run from the ac area to where you want the thermostat . One end of the phone line has to have the RJ-11 connector cut off and a new one crimped on reverse wired. If you want furnace control from cccii you need furnace wire as described in 2 above. An alternate to the phone line; if the 4 unused original wires are present as discussed in 2 above, you may be able to use those and crimp them to phone line at either end and connect those ends, they both have 4 wires. There are crimps for small phone line connections like this available at big hardware stores.
There are a few other things like boxing in the perimeter of the 14" hole.
I've done a ton of research to figure the change/upgrade out , hope it helps.
Highly recommend downloading the installation manual for the unit you want and going through it in advance.
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Go to Out of Doors Mart, they are an Airstream dealer and service center. They will be able install the proper AC.
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Thanks HiJoeSilver. I appreciate the detailed info.
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