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Old 10-28-2013, 10:35 AM   #1
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"Constantly" running pump?

We just got back last night from our first real boondocking trip just outside of Capitol Reef National park in our 25' '06 safari. Just before we got home, we dumped at the Cabela's in Lehi, Ut (FYI, $5 dump fee, but they'll give you a free code with a purchase (which we had done on the way out of town)). After our trip, we had about 3/4-5/8 capacity left in the FW tank, and obviously, the black and gray tanks were empty.

We got home, parked her and plugged into 15 amp house power to keep the food in the fridge cold (we had too much and and were too tired to unload it last night! ). This AM when my wife went out to get some stuff to make me breakfast she said, "Something running in the AS and it's making a noise." Well, I went out to investigate and the sound was coming in the area between the fridge and shower. IT sounded kind of like the surge pump that runs when you run the water. Long story short, I got the noise to go away by running about 20 seconds of water from the bathroom sink into the gray tank (it was also this time that I remember that I had forgotten to run a little water into the Black tank to help with solids buildup. Also, and not sure if it's related or not, we aren't 100% level, and "listing" very slightly to the right side.

Ok, what was I hearing and in this normal or abnormal Airstream behavior?

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Old 10-28-2013, 11:01 AM   #2
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You most likely had an air bubble in the lines.


I have gotten in the habit over the years...shutting down the water heater and pump at night or when the AS is unoccupied.

Had a leak in the B-room line that just about emptied the FW tank while we were asleep. BIG mess.
Frequent on/off will get you used to listening to the pump and noting when/if it's shutting down properly.

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We always shut the FW pump off after every use. As well as when going down the road.
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You most likely had an air bubble in the lines.

I have gotten in the habit over the years...shutting down the water heater and pump at night or when the AS is unoccupied.
I think that's it. It sounded like the pump was cavitating.

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We always shut the FW pump off after every use. As well as when going down the road.
Cool. Sound like a good idea. So how do I shut down the pump? lol.
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:05 PM   #5
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We have the same trailer. The pump switch is found on the indicator panel just to the right of your cook top. It is wise to shutoff the pump whenever you leave the trailer and certainly when you have it stored for any length of time.

I installed a lighted switch this summer so I can tell at a glance if it is on or not. On a pop up I used to have I forgot to turn the pump off before leaving for home. I opened the FW spigot and took off. As the water drained out of the tank, the pump came on and ran dry for more than three hours. Amazing as it was, the pump survived with no issues. I was lucky and learned a good lesson.
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I am not familiar with your particular coach. But in mine, there is a switch above the galley sink. I installed a second switch in the bathroom, making it convenient to turn on/off the pump from either location.
If your rig has a control panel, the switch may be located there.
As I stated earlier, we turn on the pump when we have a need for water, then turn it off.
There are numerous stories here about owners opening the door of their coach after a day of travel, only to find the galley sink overflowing or a wet bathroom floor.
I just makes sense to me to turn on the pump when you need water, then turn it off when you are finished.
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About the lighted switch please. Got a picture? Part nomenclature?
Since I also have a switch in the bathroom, I can never tell if the pump is on or off without opening a faucet.
As you say, This can lead to problems if inadvertently left on going down the road. We once had a hose clamp slip off.
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If our Classic is the same....

You can turn the pump on & off with either switch. If you turn it on/off with the bathroom switch the light will come on/off at the panel above the stove. The red light sez "pump on". There is no light on the switch panel in the bathroom..no water?...flip it on.


FWIW.....this is the leak that caused our pump to fill the bathroom and learned us a good lesson.

Cross threaded fitting under the B-room sink, thank Wally for MarineTex


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I know exactly where it is now that it's been described. Ironically, I was looking at it this weekend thinking, "I wonder what this does??" lol.

THANKS so much everyone!!!
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I always install a toggle switch in such a manner that when the handle is UP, the device it controls is ON.
Residential light switches are installed in this manner. So it is easy to remember.
When rocker switches are installed. They should be mounted in such a way that when you depress the upper part of the switch the device comes on.
If you notice on the control panel some rocker switches are labelled.
Top= ON
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Unless You Have Two Two-Way Switches

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They should be mounted in such a way that when you depress the upper part of the switch the device comes on.
If you notice on the control panel some rocker switches are labelled.
Top= ON
Bottom= OFF
This is when it gets confusing. The toggle in the galley, and the toggle in the bathroom are two-way switches on the same circuit.
That's why I like the Aftermath and the Robert Cross solution of lighted switch or indicator light.
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Alumaholic,

Here is a link to the thread I read earlier this summer.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f445...mp-103075.html

In post #4 you will find a link to the company that sells the switch

In post #23 CA Streamer has some pictures of the process and the final product. He does a great job of explaining the procedure.

I don't have two switches so my "fix" was very easy.

Good luck,

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"If you notice on the control panel some rocker switches are labelled.
Top= ON
Bottom= OFF"
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The WP switch is not labeled as such in our trailer because either switch can be used regardless of it's position. ie...if turned on at the panel, it can be turned off in the B-room even if the rocker is in the down position.
A little confusing at first, until you poke your head around the corner to make sure the panel light is off.

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The WP switch is not labeled as such in our trailer because either switch can be used regardless of it's position. ie...if turned on at the panel, it can be turned off in the B-room even if the rocker is in the down position.
A little confusing at first, until you poke your head around the corner to make sure the panel light is off.
Not confusing at all. Seems like a basic setup, where two switches control one hallway light at home. Both switches up or both down equals ON, while one up and one down equals OFF.
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