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Old 04-05-2014, 05:58 PM   #1
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Classic Corian counter and cabinet movement

So after 15,000 miles on the AS, everything is "settling in". One thing I noticed is an abrasion line on the clear coated aluminum galley wall about 1/8" running horizontally just above the back splash. I was curious about this so I got my head under the cabinetry and noted that AS has employed a 1" aluminum angle running the entire length of the counter top with a piece if plywood on top of it, to which the counter top is glued (I presume). The vertical section of the angle has holes drilled in it, but there are no fasteners attaching the angle to the wall. Is this an omission or normal?

Should the angle be attached to the wall? with screws? With rivets? Or am I asking for popped rivets?

It appears there are L brackets sporadically placed attaching the woodwork to the wall and floor, but that's it.

Could any of you stick your head under the cabinets and tell me if your counter top is attached to the wall?
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:42 AM   #2
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Anyone? Even if yours isn't a Classic....is your counter fastened to the wall along the rear top edge?
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Old 04-06-2014, 12:11 PM   #3
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Every Airstream galley I've ever worked on has the galley cabinet top attached to the wall in some fashion. I've never removed or installed a galley as new as yours, however.
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Looks like it is riveted and screwed in.
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Old 04-06-2014, 02:23 PM   #5
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WOW! Top's post gave me the encouragement to remove the stove and microwave and have a look. The line worker put 2 rivets behind the stove and went on permanent smoke break. Those 2 rivets had pulled out of the skin, so there was nothing holding the whole counter assembly in place save one L bracket and 2 small screws.

I went back with 9 screws between the closet wall and the right side of the sinks. Unfortunately in order to properly secure the full length, I'd have to remove the sink, faucet hardware and all pluming lines to get behind the sink to drill holes. So I have about the first 2 feet from the left end of the counter with no fasteners save one L bracket in the wall of the cabinet.

Think I'm OK?

How did I ever go 15,000 miles without the whole thing moving to the center isle, I'll never know.
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Old 04-06-2014, 02:30 PM   #6
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Thanks, RLS, for taking the time to post and look. I appreciate it.
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I'll take a look next time I'm out at storage, Rich.
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This just begs the question, Why is there aways time and money to do it over again but not enough time or money to do it correctly the first time?

This sloppy original work is not just the provence of Airstream, I find it nearly every day.

When we bought our current home, there is a wall around the roof that prevented seeing the structure from the ground. The roof tile was not completely installed and tar paper was the roof for years. How did the building inspectors miss this or the construction manager for the subdivision?

The lack of air flow in the heater ducts in the rear of the new trailer was caused by the ducts being crossed right at the furnace, like crossing your legs when in a chair. I photoed that just before the counter was installed. The warranty time was charged for the local mechanic to trouble shoot what I relayed to him and he was able to rework the ducts so they were not crossed. Suddenly there is more than ample air flow to that part of the trailer.

We are discovering more items of this nature during the modification process for the solar system.

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They are what they are, some degree of less than perfect. This Airstream came to us very nicely assembled. Our first one was good, but less so. They are assembled by people of different skill levels and abilities, that's the way it is.

How do we deal with it.

I generally follow a quarterly inspection and maintenance plan. We clean the trailer in and out, while looking for any defects, corrosion, signs of moisture, or things out of place. When we find them we fix them as best we can. When we can't fix them, we make a list of items for the professionals at Airstream service Center in Ohio, planning to work our way through there in our travels every two or three years. Maybe there's good local service somewhere, but I like the folks at Airstream.

Along with the general inspection and checking everything for operation, I check for any moisture in the plywood subfloor with a moisture detection meter. If there is any at all, I've got a leak in the shell to fix. Then we go over the trailer exterior, treating it with corrosion preventive products (including the underbody), and touching up nicks with a clear acrylic pen. Once a rear we wax (wax, seal, polish, whatever) the exterior and shower stall with a best quality product.

Trying here once again to push inspections and maintenance. Everyone needs a plan, and it may be different to suit them and their trailer use.
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WOW! Top's post gave me the encouragement to remove the stove and microwave and have a look. The line worker put 2 rivets behind the stove and went on permanent smoke break. Those 2 rivets had pulled out of the skin, so there was nothing holding the whole counter assembly in place save one L bracket and 2 small screws.

I went back with 9 screws between the closet wall and the right side of the sinks. Unfortunately in order to properly secure the full length, I'd have to remove the sink, faucet hardware and all pluming lines to get behind the sink to drill holes. So I have about the first 2 feet from the left end of the counter with no fasteners save one L bracket in the wall of the cabinet.

Think I'm OK?

How did I ever go 15,000 miles without the whole thing moving to the center isle, I'll never know.



Would one of these fit in there, perhaps with a shortened bit? I have this or one very similar and find it handy for many things.


Makita 3/8 in. Angle Drill, Reversible-DA3010F at The Home Depot


Here's another idea

http://www.amazon.com/Milescraft-130.../dp/B000KICSGQ

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Old 04-09-2014, 08:25 AM   #11
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I got two more fasteners in by using two 10" extensions. A bit tricky with all that flopping around ,but got it done.

Close examination revealed some other needed "tweaking" due to the missing rivets. The stove section of the cabinetry had come loose from the sink section and the closet had moved about 1/4" toward the isle at the bottom. Everything is buttoned up and secure now.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:35 AM   #12
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Typical AS quality control as my 76 31ft. had same problem not fastened to wall, pulled away I used el brackets fastened to wall no problems since Bill
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All of these comments scared me so I went out and looked at our classic. I could see under the sink and behind the stacked drawers. There were screws and rivets hold the aluminum angle to the wall and they appeared to be fastened tightly. There was no sign that the counter top had any movement. Not sure how many miles my unit has covered, but certainly 15-20,000 miles.
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:42 AM   #14
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Our FC has an aluminum angle fastened with screws which are not loose.

There shouldn't be much force pulling this away from the wall. The shaking going down the road is about it. Inland Andy always advises us to look at running gear balance and rigid hitching when things start coming loose.
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