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01-30-2014, 02:48 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2006 19' Safari SE
Hayes
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 345
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caulking around HVAC unit
I can only see parts of caulking sticking out between the bottom of the HVAC and roof of trailer. Beings I do not know how the HVAC is mounted on the top, I don't know if the unit is properly caulked in areas that I can't see. I would think a continuous bead would be called for? Whats say? Tom
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01-30-2014, 03:15 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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I wouldn't. It's just a "patch" if there's a leak...and I don't think it would last with all the vibrations while running....and it just makes a mess. A proper compression gasket, maybe with sealer on the top and bottom of it, is the proper way.
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01-30-2014, 04:16 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,508
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mocus
I can only see parts of caulking sticking out between the bottom of the HVAC and roof of trailer. Beings I do not know how the HVAC is mounted on the top, I don't know if the unit is properly caulked in areas that I can't see. I would think a continuous bead would be called for? Whats say? Tom
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Your Penguin air conditioner (A/C) is more than likely sitting on a plastic base pan. This pan is an Airstream-only part (they are the ONLY manufacturers that use such a contraption) and it is bonded to your roof with liberal amounts of SikaFlex 221 (you can see the ooze coming out from under said base pan if you remove the lower vent/control unit from the ceiling.
The upper A/C unit is then placed on top of the base pan with double-sided tape, and the 4, 1/4-20 X 6" bolts are then screwed into the upper unit thru the lower frame to hold the entire assemble to your roof.
Just a side note: Airstream no longer uses the plastic base pan, as they tend to crack and then leak A/C condensate into the trailer instead of to the outside thru the drain hose in the wall.
IMHO, this is the most convoluted, unnecessary way to mount a roof A/C and has led to many leaking problems due to the plastic base pan. Many other OEM RV makers have been using Dometic's auxiliary drain kit to route the condensate thru the internal hose to the ground for many years……and now Airstream has finally joined the party.
So now that you know what you are looking at….what was your question?
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01-30-2014, 07:12 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1991 34' Excella
Boerne
, Texas
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 119
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Interesting, So they don't use the base pan anymore? I guess it wouldn't be necessary with the widebody trailers since there is not much curvature to the roof line in that area. I suppose if this owner has a leak he could remove the inner panel to access the bolts that are used to sandwich the roof line between the upper A/C body and the inner bracket. (forgive me, It's been a while since I did my install). Once those bolts are loose or off, the A/C could be lifted to get more sealant around the opening. I guess I'd have to see what's going on first.
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1991 34' excella 1000, bought 05/10, oak floors, granite countertops, Marble bathroom counter and floor, 2 A/C's, 2005 Hensley. 1600 Watts Solar/ 400Ah Lithium batteries
Tow With: 2006 Dodge 2500 Quad LB 2WD, 5.9 Cummins, Edge Insight CTS, Smarty Jr, Bilstein Shocks, Ingalls balljoints.
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01-31-2014, 09:44 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2006 19' Safari SE
Hayes
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 345
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I have part of my flooring rotting from just inside the door and runs about a foot toward the front of the trailer. I have been caulking every where there is a seam,, et al. I have re-caulked every seem and crack on top and that is when I noticed the crack between the AC and roof, with a few pieces of caulk visible. I have the trailer under a detached carport and have built a platform above the trailer that makes it easier to work on the roof--works most of the time.
First of all, thank you all for your responses--it gives me more of an insight as to what I will need to check.
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01-31-2014, 09:56 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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I doubt it is the AC leaking to be that far forward. The way these things are built is that any water that leaks between the front door and the corners will either drain out at the corners or at the door frame area. I found a leak in the window frame where the seal between the glass and frame went bad and also some leaking rivets just to the right and above the door. I also found some loose rivets near the bottom of the door frame. Rivets around the door leak because the door is constantly being opened and shut and it loosens the rivets.
Perry
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01-31-2014, 10:11 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1995 34' Excella
Corinth
, Mississippi
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 304
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I removed and replaced the original air conditioner from my '95 model and I can assure you that it was not only sealed well, but the sealant was so adhesive that the hardest part of the job was removing the old unit. I think it would have stayed up there if there was no bolts involved. I simply used the rubber gasket supplied with the new unit with no sealant whatsoever (as per instructions) and have had no problems with leaks.
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01-31-2014, 10:12 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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So when did AS quit using the pan? Mine has a black narrow tray in between the plenum and the interior cover. I can't see a pan between the roof and the A/C unit.
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01-31-2014, 11:59 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
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I started to notice them in 2012 model year, but I'm not sure of the conception date.
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