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11-07-2015, 03:45 PM
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New Member
2016 19' Flying Cloud
Derry
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Oct 2015
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Can I put a 17' kayak on my roof?
I am an expedition sea kayaker that is waiting for my new 19' Flying Cloud to arrive. I drive a Toyota Tundra with a Crew Cab and currently mount my sea kayaks atop bed mounted TracRac rack system. The problem I am facing is my kayaks stick out too far beyond the rear of my truck and will hit the Airstream. I can move it forward by 32" by adding a Cantilever extender over my cab but still fear I will need more clearance in back as the kayaks will still extend 3 feet beyond the tailgate. Has anyone ever installed any type of rack system with cross bars on top of their Airstream? Could the Airstream roof even support a pair of 55 pound sea kayaks? Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.Doug
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11-07-2015, 04:13 PM
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Lost in America
2015 27' FB International
2006 25' Safari FB SE
2004 19' International CCD
Santa Fe
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,156
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Best bet would be to add a roof rack at the front of the truck cab and move the kayaks forward. I wouldn't even consider adding anything to the airstream roof other than solar panels.
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2015 Airstream International Serenity 27FB
2017 Chevy Silverado 2500HD Duramax Diesel
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11-07-2015, 04:14 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' FB International
2007 20' Safari SE
2005 19' Safari
Qualicum Beach
, British Columbia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,096
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I would have to say, I don't think it would be wise.
We carry a 19 ft canoe on top of our canopy with no issues as I have a roof mounted Yakima rack that clamps on the roof above the pillar on my extended cab GMC as well as the rear rack on the track system on the canopy.
George
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11-07-2015, 04:17 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1966 22' Safari
groves point
, nova scotia
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 5
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Maybe a hitch installed on the front of truck with a T bar. This would allow you to move kayaks forward.
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11-07-2015, 04:19 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Currently Looking...
Wauwatosa
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 810
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I am at my limit of posting pictures or I would show you.
I load my 17' tandem on my truck rack. With it centered side to side I put 6" between the kayak and the front of the AS. Because it is centered actually gets further away from the AS in a turn.
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11-07-2015, 04:26 PM
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GLCMRANGER - Sue
2016 25' International
Littlestown
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 334
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I also had the same dilemma. I went through a hardtop tonneau cover first -- didn't work. I just had a A.R.E. MX series installed on my Tundra including the rack option when I ordered the A.R.E. Next, I installed the Thule Hullavator Pro kayak rack.... It works great!
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11-07-2015, 04:42 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1999 27' Safari
Stone Mountain
, Georgia
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 251
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We have had no trouble carrying 15' and 17' sea kayaks on our Dodge Dakota Quad cab. One thing we did was ad a bed cap that allowed us to 'push' the kayaks forward over the hood. These pictures show two 15 1/2' boats, but have used a 17+' here too.
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Towed by 2016 Ford F-150
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11-07-2015, 04:47 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1999 27' Safari
Stone Mountain
, Georgia
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 251
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Here is the same set up with the racks a little closer together on the roof of the truck before the cap. They rode fine. I hope these help.
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1999 Safari 27'
Towed by 2016 Ford F-150
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TAC #GA-27
AIR #34930
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11-08-2015, 11:20 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Roseville
, California
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 35
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I've had a part time paddlesport business since 1992, sea kayaks (up to 21') for the first 10 years, and paddleboards (up to 18') for the last 15 years. I have a shell on my truck with a track mounted rack, and another track mounted on my cab (F150 Super Crew), which allows me to carry anything w/o interference with my trailer. The track on the cab allowing for fore/aft movement is the most versatile setup you can find! Even w/o the trailer I prefer not to have a lot of overhang at the rear.
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11-08-2015, 11:25 AM
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59' Globester
1959 18' "Footer"
1957 26' Overlander
Three Rivers
, California
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 248
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mojo nailed it. Just get a new rack that extends over your cab.
You also don't want to make any more holes in the top of AS. Also pretty high up there gettin' up and down.
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11-08-2015, 11:34 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2014 27' Flying Cloud
Stowe
, Vermont
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 338
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We have had 2 trucks so far - Ram 2500 and now a Ford F250 (both crew and mega cabs respectively). We put caps on the beds of both. We have 2, 17+ft. kayaks. We put one cross bar over the front part of the trucks cab (over the front seat area) The next bar goes toward the front of the cap. (I have a gutter attachment on the cap.) I add a 3rd bar (empty - no rack parts) at the back of the cap, so that the kayaks can go up smoothly without scratching the cap.
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11-08-2015, 02:50 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1990 29' Excella
Travelers Rest
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 311
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Getting the kayaks forward enough to completely clear the AS is the way to go. Also on weight distribution and side wind force it is better to get the kayak forward as much as possible, just don't overhang the windshield itself or you won't be able to see the traffic lights at intersections.
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11-08-2015, 04:35 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 30' Flying Cloud
2008 23' International
Keremeos
, British Columbia
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Thule Goal Post
When we towed with our Jeep Grand Cherokee, our Hobie trimaran was 2 feet longer than the vehicle (Jeep 16.5 ft, Hobie 18.5 ft). Paul installed a front receiver on the Jeep and attached the Goal Post. Therefore, the length was pushed forward and gave more than enough clearance for the Airstream. We now tow with a pick-up, but we still keep the length as forward as possible. I hope these images help.
#1 Jeep with Thule Goal Post
#2 Truck in the bowels of a ferry (next to a logging truck. Eek!)
Lisa
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11-09-2015, 09:00 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 29' Ambassador
Boynton Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 568
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Something that none of the other fine posters mentioned was that even if you get a stellar rack system on top of your Airstream, you'll be faced with two dilemmas: getting those big kayaks up and down without damaging the trailer or yourself, and then getting the kayaks to the launch after you make camp. Wow that's a lot of work!
I've attached pics of my rig- I haul up to 4 kayaks at a time with my Airstream hooked up. I've got a pretty extensive Thule system that works great for solo kayak loading. You should see me preen when I get compliments on my rack!
With the extra-wide bars, I load from the side when I can draft some (tall) assistance. Going solo, the kayaks go up and down from the back over the rollers. The boat on the driver's side is a Tarpon 160, 16 feet long. I bring along a 3-step stool ladder that I got from Home Depot for $30.
Oddly enough, the back of the truck still gets filled up with gear even though I have that big Airstream with me. Keeping the quad cab empty is good for stuffing paddlers into when running shuttles.
Better go get those boats down from yesterday's jaunt in the Everglades...
PS: Maybe you should bring your new rig down to Florida this winter and check out what paddling in paradise is like! I'm tired of being the one required to class-up the campgrounds all by myself! PM me for details...
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11-09-2015, 09:06 AM
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Free Range Human
2012 25' FB Flying Cloud
Currently Looking...
Haines
, Oregon
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 736
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caperjoe
Maybe a hitch installed on the front of truck with a T bar. This would allow you to move kayaks forward.
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This would be the best solution. We have a 20' Necky Tofino that I would like to take. If we do, I will go with a front receiver and 'T'.
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11-09-2015, 12:33 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2011 30' Flying Cloud
Greenback
, Tennessee
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 294
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Before I bought my first Airstream, I had a fifth-wheel trailer and two 15' kayaks. To transport those boats, I put a single-bar rack on the truck cab and had a front rack fabricated at a local welding shop. It attached to the front bumper of my F-250 at the points where the tow-hooks were located. This set-up worked quite well with the 5th wheel and would certainly allow sufficient clearance for an Airstream. I now carry the 15 footers on the fiberglass cap of my extended cab, long-bed and it works very well.
As mentioned before, even if you could put a rack on the AS roof, how would you get them up and down from there? It is difficult enough to get my 32-pound boats off and on my truck!
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11-09-2015, 01:56 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,689
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I use a Thule system of single adjustable rack in bed and roof rack. I can carry my 16' Old Town canoe as shown, and I also have carried canoe and 12' kayak. With Canoe, I tie down the front to hood latches I purchased on Amazon and rear to bumper. Plenty room for 17' also, and you could either use the front T as suggested, or tie front down to bumper. My kayaks don't move around, but Canoe does shift so tying front and rear is important. I leave the tri-fold cover on, as shown, and strap down my cargo with cargo net. This system works well for us, however, there are times (rain) where I wish I had a covered bed with racks built in on top, like Lear. When we go full time in couple years, likely will move to that system; you can store more gear out of the weather, plus haul your boating equipment and other things on that racking system.
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11-09-2015, 04:25 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
1977 31' Excella 500
Berkeley Springs
, West Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2005
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I'd like to bring my17' Grumman canoe along too....keep the aluminum theme going. I have a Ram 2500 long bed...thought about adding racks to the cap that's on it, but it'd still cantilever out the front a lot. Thought about a cab mounted roller, or one off the front bumper.
The Grumman isn't quite as flat on top as the Old Town, but it might work. Don't want to beat the truck all up.... but would like to bring it.
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11-10-2015, 08:21 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuzyHomemakr
Something that none of the other fine posters mentioned was that even if you get a stellar rack system on top of your Airstream, you'll be faced with two dilemmas: getting those big kayaks up and down without damaging the trailer or yourself, and then getting the kayaks to the launch after you make camp. Wow that's a lot of work!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuzyHomemakr
I've attached pics of my rig- I haul up to 4 kayaks at a time with my Airstream hooked up. I've got a pretty extensive Thule system that works great for solo kayak loading. You should see me preen when I get compliments on my rack!
With the extra-wide bars, I load from the side when I can draft some (tall) assistance. Going solo, the kayaks go up and down from the back over the rollers. The boat on the driver's side is a Tarpon 160, 16 feet long. I bring along a 3-step stool ladder that I got from Home Depot for $30.
Oddly enough, the back of the truck still gets filled up with gear even though I have that big Airstream with me. Keeping the quad cab empty is good for stuffing paddlers into when running shuttles.
Better go get those boats down from yesterday's jaunt in the Everglades...
PS: Maybe you should bring your new rig down to Florida this winter and check out what paddling in paradise is like! I'm tired of being the one required to class-up the campgrounds all by myself! PM me for details...
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Getting the kayaks or canoe on/off is not an issue typically for us as we don't need to use these till after we set up the trailer...then it's easy-peazy on/off standing in bed and standing on side boards below the door. . Key we have found, is getting "light weight" kayak or canoe's....my canoe weighs in at 84 lbs....had I done it again, I would have spent a few hundred more and got a lighter weight model...it is very taxing on the wife loading this thing by herself ! LoL
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11-13-2015, 09:26 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2013 25' FB International
Gig Harbor
, Washington
Join Date: May 2013
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