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05-10-2013, 11:16 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
Brighton
, Michigan
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 85
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Bargman L77 core replacement
Hi all,
I ordered a new lock core for my L 77 but it doesn't want to lock in place. The old one came out fine and the brass pin lines up but the key won't rotate to make it lock in. Should I be installing with the handle locked or unlocked? Any other tricks? I believe the rotating pin is getting blocked and that's what is holding it up. Any help is appreciated.
thanks
Dan
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05-10-2013, 11:46 AM
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#2
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Rivet Master
1957 22' Caravanner
1960 26' Overlander
1963 24' Tradewind
El Paso
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 945
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danruehl
Hi all,
I ordered a new lock core for my L 77 but it doesn't want to lock in place. The old one came out fine and the brass pin lines up but the key won't rotate to make it lock in. Should I be installing with the handle locked or unlocked? Any other tricks? I believe the rotating pin is getting blocked and that's what is holding it up. Any help is appreciated.
thanks
Dan
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Hey Dan
Any luck figuring it out? I have a L77 and I'm waiting for a lock core to come in from Vintage Trailer Supply. Have you tried contacting them for help?
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05-10-2013, 11:49 AM
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#3
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2 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
Brighton
, Michigan
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 85
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Left a message yesterday. No reply yet.
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05-15-2013, 10:52 AM
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Rivet Master
1957 22' Caravanner
1960 26' Overlander
1963 24' Tradewind
El Paso
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 945
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danruehl
Left a message yesterday. No reply yet.
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Any update? I've got my old cylinder out and ready to install new one. I'd sure like to hear what you've done.
Mike
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05-15-2013, 03:00 PM
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Rivet Master
1957 22' Caravanner
1960 26' Overlander
1963 24' Tradewind
El Paso
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 945
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I went ahead and installed my cylinder,it took me a while to realize the key is removed in the horizontal position and not vertical like all other locks.
I was lucky my old cylinder came out using the new key.
Hope you figure yours out.
Mike
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05-15-2013, 04:25 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
Brighton
, Michigan
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 85
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Well, the second one failed as well. I really don't have much faith in this core replacement from VTS. I bought a nos on ebay for the same money and am going to take it to a locksmith to install. There is something binding the cam as I try to turn the key so perhaps its operator error.
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05-15-2013, 05:23 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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If the key won't rotate. You don't have the brass pin lined up with the hole in the handle.
Replacing the cylinder is only the LAST step in getting this mechanism to operate somewhat freely.
The entire mechanism should be removed from the door. Then cleaned and inspected. It should be lubricated and reassembled outside of the door. And checked for correct operation. Prior to putting it back in the door.
DO NOT remove the bolt assembly from the lock while in the door. You will lose the detent balls and springs. This unit should be disassembled on a clean work bench, where you can keep track of the small parts.
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05-15-2013, 08:10 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
Brighton
, Michigan
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 85
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Done. And it is lined up.
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11-14-2013, 08:00 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1964 19' Globetrotter
Plainview
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 21
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I'm looking for a bargman L-77. Not having any luck. Anyone have one to sell?
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11-14-2013, 08:17 PM
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Rivet Master
1957 22' Caravanner
1960 26' Overlander
1963 24' Tradewind
El Paso
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 945
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas star
I'm looking for a bargman L-77. Not having any luck. Anyone have one to sell?
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Do you have any parts of the L-77? I noticed you have 1964 trailer and if that's what this lock is for I think it should take the L100. I do see the L100 on ebay right now and from time to time the L-77 pops up there as well.
Mike
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11-14-2013, 08:17 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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There was one in the classifieds here just a week or so ago. Don't know if is still there.
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11-14-2013, 08:19 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1964 19' Globetrotter
Plainview
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 21
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I just bought a 1961 tradewind. It's going to be a real challenge. Starting with the handle?!?
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11-14-2013, 08:21 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1964 19' Globetrotter
Plainview
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 21
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The inside of the door is ok. Outside handle is broke.
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11-14-2013, 08:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1957 22' Caravanner
1960 26' Overlander
1963 24' Tradewind
El Paso
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 945
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas star
The inside of the door is ok. Outside handle is broke.
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Twinkie May have the outer handle you need.
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11-14-2013, 10:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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I have outside handles. I sent you a PM.
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11-15-2013, 05:51 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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L-77 Handle and Lock Assembly
Here are some shots of a new handle installed in a lock assembly.
L-77 Handle Photos by dougbowman88 | Photobucket
I also have put together written instructions on disassembling and cleaning this assembly.
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03-29-2014, 06:59 AM
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#17
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2 Rivet Member
1992 35' Airstream 350
Ennis
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 27
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Bargman L77 exterior door handle
I have a 1959 Trade Wind 24' trailer and the outside door handle was broken when I purchased it. I found that TG Twinkie may have some outside door handles. Also need lock bolt if anyone has one.
I have a temporary lock in place so I can use the trailer but want to get it back to original.
Let me know.
Chief
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03-29-2014, 08:11 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,971
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There are plenty of l-77s on the EBAY lists....problem for me is I need one that is for the non-suicide door. Thats been impossible for me to find. If you find one of those and don't need it PLEASE let me know. I have a 55 Safari which would love to give it a home.
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03-29-2014, 08:29 AM
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Rivet Master
1957 22' Caravanner
1960 26' Overlander
1963 24' Tradewind
El Paso
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 945
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Melody Ranch
There are plenty of l-77s on the EBAY lists....problem for me is I need one that is for the non-suicide door. Thats been impossible for me to find. If you find one of those and don't need it PLEASE let me know. I have a 55 Safari which would love to give it a home.
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I bought a 59 Overlander 2 years ago with the L77 mounted upside down, not knowing anything about the trailer I thought it was odd but didn't think much about til tgtwinkie mentioned it. I pulled the lock off the trailer and noticed that the locks are actually made to work either way, all you to do is swap some things around. I did need to fabricate one little part but you more than have that skill by the awesome work your doing.
Mike
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03-29-2014, 08:44 AM
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Rivet Master
1957 22' Caravanner
1960 26' Overlander
1963 24' Tradewind
El Paso
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 945
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So I have the L-77 you need but I was able to flip some internals around and make it work properly for my suicide door.
Here it is the way I got it
Here it is swapped over.
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