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Old 10-16-2012, 01:40 PM   #15
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I think the biggest surprise was the amount of freedom they gave us back in the summer of 2002 when I went up there. Don allowed us to go into the trailers take pictures and talk to the folks working on them. I've got a lot of video that I shot there.

While there were yellow lines painted on the floor, supposedly for us not to cross, Don didn't seem to enforce them. He noted that he told Airstream that he wouldn't do the tours unless he could do them the way he wanted to. He talked about safety and told us a story about him getting reported about not enforcing the safety glasses being on. Apparently by someone taking the tour reported him. I remember one worker cautioning me in the area where the frames are upside down and the tanks and other items are being mounted. I came close to the edge of a trailer being worked on and the worker pointed out the aluminum underbelly which was hanging over the frame (it had not been trimmed back yet). He saved me from slicing my exposed thigh.

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Old 10-16-2012, 02:20 PM   #16
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2) I saw a new Classic on the line with Eddie Bauer style wheels and 16" Michelins, and stainless steel stove vent. Other Classics on the line had 15" GYMs and plastic stove vent. This leads me to suspect you can order a new trailer with such upgrades, something my dealer denied.
dkottum,

This 30' Classic that you saw on the line at Jackson Center was mine. Can you tell me exactly what stage or how much was completed on this unit? I am at the point that I need to get a VIN # for my insurance. My dealer told me that Jackson Center would not give him any information on my unit they were about a week from completion.

Glad to hear about the "Stainless Steel Stove Vent", I had no clue.

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Old 10-16-2012, 02:40 PM   #17
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Airstream wanted $640 for just the new table part, not the entire cabinet.

Had a new one built out of solid wood at a local cabinet shop for $145.
That was the famous "change order fee" at work.
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:24 PM   #18
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dkottum,

This 30' Classic that you saw on the line at Jackson Center was mine. Can you tell me exactly what stage or how much was completed on this unit? I am at the point that I need to get a VIN # for my insurance. My dealer told me that Jackson Center would not give him any information on my unit they were about a week from completion.

Glad to hear about the "Stainless Steel Stove Vent", I had no clue.

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Freedomrider, the exterior was done and it had been through the leak test. it was in an area that was fitting the interior, not sure what stage though. A pretty good guess is finished by the end of the week. They should surely have the VIN for you.

LABigDogs; Mark, you were there with us, do you remember this trailer and what stage it was in. You mentioned to me there were two trailers with two air conditioners on them, was this one of them?

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Old 10-17-2012, 07:37 AM   #19
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Doug, in the end, did you decide to ask JC what it would cost to have your trailer modded for a recliner or two?

The tour sold us on buying an Airstream. Pure and simple. We stopped there while towing our T@B (at the time, another Thor product). Seeing the trailers pushed us to start looking for aluminum when we got home.

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Old 10-17-2012, 08:31 AM   #20
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Doug, in the end, did you decide to ask JC what it would cost to have your trailer modded for a recliner or two?

The tour sold us on buying an Airstream. Pure and simple. We stopped there while towing our T@B (at the time, another Thor product). Seeing the trailers pushed us to start looking for aluminum when we got home.

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I did, a couple months ago, $4200. That would include two ultra leather recliners as in the new 30' Flying Cloud, the console/folding table between them, materials needed to modify, and all labor ($109 per hour). They would have to rebuild the cabinet around the converter (it is under the side seat) and reroute/lengthen the front external power hookup wiring. A fair price perhaps for labor involved and retail price of the furnishings/cabinet materials needed.

There is an old Airstream in one of the Service Center bays that they have rebuilt installing new assembly line materials. Decent work and nice looking two axle (new style wheels/tires) vintage unit, it's for sale but didn't ask price.

Decided not to do it as I was looking for a winter project at the time and could save some money. We'll see, may have them do it another time.

The factory tour would be the best sales pitch they could throw, so much more inspiring and confidence building than the dealer/showroom fling. I feel much better about the quality of my Airstream after seeing them built and the value in the price. It appears they are truly concerned about the quality issues, Don Ambos lets you wander about the units in safe areas of the line to look them over and ask questions to the workers. He claims there is an ongoing effort to decrease outsourcing materials and bring them in-house to better control them, such as with the cabinet construction and laminating equipment being used.

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Hands up if Don convinced anyone in your tour group to buy the sealant and applicator gun after your tour.
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dkottum,

Thanks for the info. Very helpful. Also, the unit was ordered with two AC's.
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This is in the Service Center, a refurbished vintage unit with current Airstream materials. Not sure what year/model it is. It's for sale.

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We have a 2009 Flying Cloud 28 Ft.After taking delivery of our trailer , we went to the factory to have a number of problems repaired. These problems were handled to our satisfaction. However at a later date we discovered much to our dismay ,we discovered that particle board had been used in the overhead cabinet in the bathroom .We installed some bolts with large washers in place of the screws that were used in particle board.To date this seemed to cure our problems that we had with the door to the OH cabinet. A problem that should not have happened in the first place since we were assured by the salesperson that no where was particle board used in an AS trailer.
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This is in the Service Center, a refurbished vintage unit with current Airstream materials. Not sure what year/model it is. It's for sale.

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Is this the same one, it is for sale here?

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