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Old 11-03-2014, 04:05 PM   #15
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I looked pretty hard as the slide outs a couple years ago as we considered used options....as I recall the tongue weight was impressive...if my recollection is correct....
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Old 11-03-2014, 05:11 PM   #16
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I looked pretty hard as the slide outs a couple years ago as we considered used options....as I recall the tongue weight was impressive...if my recollection is correct....
I believe you are correct sir. I remember thinking my old 3/4 ton diesel Silverado probably wouldn't be adequate for that monster.

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Old 11-03-2014, 05:53 PM   #17
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I looked pretty hard as the slide outs a couple years ago as we considered used options....as I recall the tongue weight was impressive...if my recollection is correct....
Yes, my truck scales out at 9300lbs with trailer in tow on a 9600lbs GVWR on the truck. Combined we are at 18,100lbs with a lightly loaded trailer. But, I suppose it's not too much for a mini van in Canada.
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Old 11-04-2014, 10:31 AM   #18
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I am looking for info and input on the possibilities, and method.

The reason I posted this question here rather than the MH section was that if it had been done before, it would most likely have been a trailer. The MH has a similar bodyside section to the trailers of a similar vintage, and would have the same issues.

When you look at the work that Airstreams4u do, obviously cutting large holes in Airstream structures is possible with the right frame/body reinforcement.
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The opening I am looking at, is small in comparison.

Sacrilege... maybe, to some people, but when I show why I am thinking about this, maybe it will be better understood.

A slideout in an Airplane... amusing, but come on!
The reason that it is not done has nothing to do with structure... in fact there are many holes in aircraft structures, and all of them have perimeter strengthening to compensate, exactly as I am proposing.

If the frame of the factory Trailers was beefier... maybe they should have used that frame for other models... there would be some happier streamers with better built trailers I think.

Anyway, back on track.
This is what I am dealing with... PO gift.
Body damage that starts in the entrance door, and extends about 8' along the bodyside.








The entrance handle was ripped off... This was under the patch panel.


So, I researched and amassed all of the info I needed to repair this.
Remove kitchen, bathroom, and bedroom.
Remove interior skin.
Remove Awning.
Remove windows, and exterior skin from entrance door to rear wrap.(about 1000 rivets).
Repair/replace bent ribs.
Replace floor(rotted due to leaks).

Replace all of above.


A LOT of work to bring this baby back.
After watching some TV shows where they retrofit slide outs, I wondered.
I could cut out the most damaged area, and the rotten floor, reinforce the opening with 4x2 or similar extruded aluminum. The slide out mechanisms are available that go in the floor or in the wall, dependent on space.
Floor.
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Wall.
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The slideout would be from just behind the entrance door and extend back to the shower wall, which would be the whole kitchen.
This would be about 18" into the rear wheel opening, but that is not an issue.

The biggest issue is how much slide is possible with the curve in the body...

One area where the MH differs from the trailer to my advantage, is the subfloor structure... The is a 2x2 steel frame below the floor... seen in this COOL video of the building of the MH(about 1:35 in).
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Old 11-11-2014, 10:42 AM   #19
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I understood from one of the owners of one that the main reason was the difficulty in preventing leaking went they were out. It would seem a good awning over the sliding unit my help unless you had blowing rain. I restore and unfit unts for hospitality rentals( tailgating ect) and my biggest concerns by far is frame integrity. You would need something like a typical door frame with about 5 times the strength.
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Old 11-11-2014, 10:52 PM   #20
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Anyone ever added a slideout to an Airstream?

Possible??

Yep.

Worth it?

Doubtful.

Putting a slide out in an Airstream will be a royal PITA. Not enough vertical space for a typical install.

It is too cramped at the roof, and too cramped on the lower.

Add to that the amount of difficulty and fine tuning in trying to get the slide to match the side of the trailer at the face joints.. This is not a box trailer, the fab required to hold the aluminum in place is going to be substantial, and it is going to be complicated by the curvature of both the slide and the trailer body.

You already have a big repair job, I would recommend concentrating on the repair. The nation is filled with simple projects made complex and then never finished.

Not making any judgement on you in specific, but watch it. Projects all too easily become unfun, and unfinished when they get too complicated.


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Old 11-12-2014, 01:58 AM   #21
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Hi Steve,

Most of the folks commenting on your slide out fantasy probably aren't aware of your impressive credentials as a designer/fabricator. I have no doubt that you could pull this off.

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Old 11-12-2014, 02:15 AM   #22
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Anyone ever added a slideout to an Airstream?

I suppose I should have looked at the OPs profile before answering but I didn't. If I had I would have saved my breath, I didn't say anything that was not already known.

Being aware of a persons capabilities and experience makes a difference in any recommendation, especially as it relates to seeing a difficult job to completion.

Fwiw... I have no problem with cutting up a mass produced trailer.

My responses prior were written as if I was responding to a DIY guy starting out on a road that is going to be more difficult than a person might think.

Anyone who has been around projects knows well that our nation is littered with ambitious projects that don't get ever finished.




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Old 12-09-2014, 07:03 PM   #23
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Woodland RV in Grand Rapids, Michigan told me they could, and would do it. The are one of few AS dealers who can take delivery on AS shell to customize....
I promise you if they do it, the final product will appear that it came from the factory, and the price will reflect that!

I've had them do maintenece on ours, and never had a reason to complain..

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Keyair, Anything is possible! I am very hopeful that you can do this. As an ex-Aircraft maintainer and CV-22 program test team member, I would suggest doing as much on paper as possible --getting extremely detailed and answering tough questions -- before breaking skin, though. You have the right inclination, asking around, so I have faith that your final product will be one for the books. I hope you keep up on the forum so we can all share your thoughts and learn from the decisions you make!
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Old 06-25-2015, 12:00 AM   #25
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Thanks for the support... Not going to hack into this unless I am sure I can do it right.
I have sketched it, measured it, drawn in to scale. Figured out the slides, framework and sealing. I think it can be done.
My only concern is am I up to it... And right now, that's a no.
Costa Rica called, and I said yes... Will be back at the weekend, so will begin to look again...
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Old 06-25-2015, 03:05 AM   #26
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From what I understand the reason they stopped building slides is a combination of factors. Sales volume never became that high so on the occasion that they did sell one it took considerably longer to build which slowed the entire line down. With the lost production of other models figured in it was costing more to build each one than they were selling it for.

With the plant expansion I would think we would see one again sometime but I would not expect it soon.


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