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Old 01-01-2013, 02:40 AM   #1
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Airstream Wiki...

This may be a question that's been asked a million times, but I searched and searched and couldn't find my answer so here goes.

One thing I've experienced as I've read and read and read on this AMAZING site is a fair amount of frustration, in trying to track down through the search feature specific topics. I can scroll through each technical forum, but often it's like looking for needles in haystacks.

I use the search feature, but come up with results that oftentimes seem like they're out of left field to me. They're off topic, and I can't even find my keyword in the page when I search that page.

I've thought probably a hundred times, that this site could use a seriously high powered wiki. I mean ALL the information is already out here, and many users do know where it is, through saving and organizing of their own links. There are users who are "experts" on certain topics like insulation, floor/frame repairs, coatings, plumbing, etc.

But information both general and specific is difficult to navigate to quickly.

Am I crazy in this assertion/question?? Am I missing something? I am a very technically competent person. I search a great deal on the web, I've programmed in php and html, and built websites, databases, and the interfaces.

Just seems to me that we could take this amazing community and make the information that people are after much more accessible with a little application of ourselves to it.

Thoughts? Thanks!
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Old 01-01-2013, 03:40 AM   #2
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Great topic. What's your question? What info where you in search of?
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Old 01-01-2013, 04:15 AM   #3
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oh, i've been in search of all manner of info!! furnace info, plumbing info, electrical info, rivet info, on and on.

and i have gleaned a ton reading threads, but have been largely unsuccessful in quickly locating answers to questions, rather, I've found out how certain folks have done stuff and what the general consensus is on a topic at least as it comes out in a thread or two.

make sense?

just seems like we could pretty easily organize some fairly concrete topics and information so it's easier to get to some answers.

or i need a good tutorial on searching this forum!! could just be that too i guess

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Old 01-01-2013, 04:41 AM   #4
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Agreed! I have read back to 2004 so far in the classic section. And there is great info scattered among the pages.....but trying to find it again (or the first time) is a PITA. I know a few members have created Stickies with links on the first page to diffent links of information.

Here is one that Key maintains that is great!
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f311...ead-95034.html

It is always the first post in the Classic Moho section.
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Old 01-01-2013, 08:37 AM   #5
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Might I suggest you search differently? Go to google and type in "Airforums; subject you seek info on" You will find the info you need much easier that way.
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Might I suggest you search differently? Go to google and type in "Airforums; subject you seek info on" You will find the info you need much easier that way.
X2....'ya can't beet the google.

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On another forum, on another subject, I was recently admonished ( in good humor ) for not using GOOGLE to find the answer to my inquiry with ease and simplicity. This is the dilemma for those of us born before 1980. This high tech world is still a learning experience for us.
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:26 AM   #8
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On another forum, on another subject, I was recently admonished ( in good humor ) for not using GOOGLE to find the answer to my inquiry with ease and simplicity. This is the dilemma for those of us born before 1980. This high tech world is still a learning experience for us.
not admonishing, I have found the search function here to not functioning
as well as searching from the outside...
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not admonishing, I have found the search function here to not functioning
as well as searching from the outside...
Agreed, but it shouldn't be that way.... The amount of data available is overwhelming in it's content and disarray and disorganization....
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One way to narrow down a search here is to "search post" instead of "search thread". Key word will be highlighted. TMI can always be a problem when doing any internet searches. GOOGLE can definetly be your friend when shotgunning for information. Search engines are only as smart as the programer and the person searching.
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....... Search engines are only as smart as the programer and the person searching.
Hopefully the programmer is top notch because I am not doing to well on this end!
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:04 AM   #12
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wxbuoy,

I think that this is my point.

"Agreed, but it shouldn't be that way.... The amount of data available is overwhelming in it's content and disarray and disorganization...."

I couldn't agree more.

I get that I can search outside using google and bing, searching airforums.com, but can't we all agree that it's a bit silly? I mean again, this site is AMAZING, in all of it's information and thorough coverage of any number of topics. But the access to that information and the organization of that information is sorely lacking.

I agree that you can track some stuff down if you work hard enough, but a solid wiki of information well organized and populated would be an amazing resource and timesaver especially when paired with the forum posts which could be cross referenced for context in particular peoples restorations/renovations.

Would there be resistance in adding a section like that to this site?

Just trying to make it easier on those of us interested in restoring our streams (and in my case argosies ). Please let me know if I'm missing something.

Thanks all, again, top notch community,
always good to be growing though too right?

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Mark,

You are absolutely correct! I have spent the past day searching for a post in a thread I read 2 months ago (that I can't remember where, for someone who was making window weep hole covers) Very frustrating!

Maybe an easy way to start would be to give the originator of threads the ability to update the first page, thereby they could put a part wiki etc on it. Keyair is doing that over on the classic moho forum with his parts sticky wiki.
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Old 01-02-2013, 06:42 AM   #14
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The site did start a wiki at one point. It's down now and has been for some time - probably due to a lack of interest in adding and updating info.

"site:airforums.com <topic>" in Google works pretty well, far better than any vBulletin built-in search has ever worked. And let's face it, even if the internal search worked as well as Google does, you'd still just get the same results.

I've considered writing up a couple threads as FAQs for people that could be stickied at the top of the appropriate forum to help people with very common questions (converters, hooking 220 volts to the RV plug, how the propane regulator works, and so on). I don't know if the forum owners would be interested in that or not, though, and I'd hate to put the effort into compiling the info only to have it ignored.
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