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Old 01-04-2010, 02:24 PM   #1
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Airstream Reproduction Questions

Just wondering. Is my effort a restore or a reproduction?

I have replaced, or am in the process of (lets not get too far ahead of myself)
axle, wheels, wheel wells, tires
all frame, except the hitch
all floor
all belly skin
some outside panels
some inside panels
all floor c-channel
all plumbing (really had none to start)
all electrical
all gas
all window glass
all window screens and interior trim
all interior

This said, is it legal to reproduce an airstream from scratch? Other than the SN plate (which can be bought at VTS) what is needed to say you have an old AS?

Is the design and form of an AS intellectual property?

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Old 01-04-2010, 03:36 PM   #2
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Although I am not an attorney I would hazard a guess that if you took a frame and rebuilt everything on it it would still be a restoration if you used the original serial number or VIN plate to register it with your state DMV. On the other hand if you fabricated the entire thing and accurately replicated an A/S it would still be classified as a "home-made" when viewed by the DMV. They would likely issue you with a VIN plate that would have to be attached to the vehilcle.

The serial number plates from VTS would probably not constitute a legal VIN plate.
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You can buy a brand new 57 chev, where all parts except the firewall with the vin tag attached, are brand new. That way it's classed as a restoration and doesn't need to meet modern standards. Cost is about $180,000
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Sounds like a massive renovation to me...

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Old 01-04-2010, 05:26 PM   #5
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Just wondering. Is my effort a restore or a reproduction?

Is the design and form of an AS intellectual property?

Gene
Gene.

I think you should get the answer to your question, direct from Airstream.

Opinions,in this case, are just that, that may or may not be correct.

Airstream's number is 937-5966111. You might try talking to John Huttle. His extension is 7412.

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Sounds like Lincoln's Ax.
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To me... Restoration would be returning the electric to original with period switches & fixtures; placing as original as possible toilet area; restoring & returning pressure tank to function and using as originally intended. You'd probably receive broad acclaim to toss the old split rims!

For an authentic restoration with period materials, see InsideOut's http://www.airforums.com/forums/f91/...irl-31084.html

I agree with Aaron -- renovation fits more to what you are doing.
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Chevy ... Cost is about $180,000 - I am getting there. A couple less zeros but if I added it up, well, no good reason to, except to piss of the wife, who would retaliate with a spending spree of her own.Sounds like a massive renovation to me... - yes, more than I knew I was getting into

Lincoln's Ax - Google and now I know the rest of the story

Andy -I am not seriously considering this, I may be a fool, but not a ..., well that I may be too

To me the only purpose of an authentic restoration of this trailer would be for a museum, as man has evolved since then. The simplistic utilitarian build of the trailer is not want most would want - including me. I like classic looks and feel, but not, without plumbing (no toilet, holding, hot water, fresh water). Only tethered 110 electric. Only a simple two bench and table. The beds would have been nice and I thought of restoring these, but they were twin and I want a double. Also, I put them out for free on the classified site with no takers. To me this means no one else want them either.
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A friend down the street got re-model permit for their home and left only the bathroom, take everything else away, poured a new foundation, expanded the square footage, change the roof line, all of the windows, etc., etc.

It was not considered a new home.

How much of the old trailer do you need? Who knows.
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This may answer your question

This car started life as a '34 Chevrolet.
Is it still a '34 Chevrolet?

Sure it is.

That's what the pink slip says it is, that's what it is.
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