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Old 06-07-2019, 05:24 AM   #1
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27FB Sink Cabinet Hinge

Hi all. Every video Iíve watched on these types of hinges talks about adjusting the height and depth using the 2 screws too can see in the pic. But the cabinet feels like itís coming loose at the hinge and I have to admit I have no idea what Iím looking for to tighten the cabinet door. I feel like if I open it again itís going to come off in my hand...

Appreciate any insight in to this. These types of hinges are all throughout the trailer. 6 years in I should probably learn how they operate....thanks!Click image for larger version

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Old 06-07-2019, 06:35 AM   #2
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Actually these hinges DO release the door from the cabinet quite easily. That is OK.

If the door comes off, then you can just re-snap-on the hinge half on the door to the hinge half on the cabinet face.

Google Blum Hinge Adjustments to see in action how these work. Here is one I found:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...ZdiWR_oz7Dsc5O
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Old 06-07-2019, 06:43 AM   #3
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First thing I'd do is put the hinge protectors on so it doesn't come off in your hand.
Little gizmo stops the release tab from moving.

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If the hinge itself is getting loose at the screw, you may need to re-attach it.

Here is what I did.

Unscrew and set aside.

Fill the holes. Use several toothpicks cut to about an inch and gorilla glue. Let dry. Trim the toothpicks as close as you can with a clipper tool, and then file smooth. A nail file works well for this.

Now you can re-screw into fresh wood.

I am not that smart. I learned about this here on Airforums.
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I put piano hinges on mine. I could have put the clips on but I found the hinge was restricting access. No blocking access with the piano hinges and never have to worry about them coming off.
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Make sure the round insert into the curved foam door isnít beginning to wallow out or crack. I was able to fix mine with an epoxy wood filler available at big box hardware store. Rough roads are really tough on these particular doors.

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I fixed mine with filled epoxy. But I like Bill's piano-hinge idea. Those bulky internal hinge bodies really do get in the way!
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Shouldn’t that hinge assembly be flush against the side of the cabinet? It looks like it pulled away from the inner side of the cabinet or the quick release was activated. If quick lease was activated reseat the hinge. If not, If you know how to remove the hinges from the doors I would recommend you do that first or unscrew the assemblies. Then using the quick release remove the hinges from the door. Reattach the upper hinge flush with the inner side of the cabinet...fill any holes (glue and toothpicks or wooden plug and glue) to allow you to firmly attach the hinge assembly. Then reattach the door to the hinges.
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I found that my inserts in the door were never recessed fully. A deeper hole, gorilla glue, rescrew and all is good.
It appears that AS has a problem with these hinges....perhaps this could be a topic of discussion for the lucky 12 recently appointed! Heh heh
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Shouldnít that hinge assembly be flush against the side of the cabinet?
It looks to be on a right angle bracket. Maybe because you couldn't get a screwdriver in with the sink in the way. Or maybe the door needs to open more than 90 degrees.
I agree, though, having the bracket stick out like that is a problem looking to happen.
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I have a 2018 27FBTwin that has the same issue. Doors literally fell off when pulling it home from dealership. Not best first impression 😑. Tried to fix with screws and adjustments many times but finally zip tied the hinges (around each hinge as tight as I could) and doors work great. Not a perfect long term fix but my wife is happy (they donít fall on her feet) and I donít have to screw them back together each trip🙌🏻.
Airstream assures me they can fix when I take it to Ohio later this summer for the tour but I am thankful for my temporary fix. Hope it works for you too!
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I replaced the screws on the inner part of the hinge with hex head screws and glued them in place. Problem solved. With a small socket set, it is much easier to tighten the hex head screws because the sink is so close.
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I forgot to mention that for some reason the adjustment screws on my hinges are wood screws
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I suggest wiggling the door while it is open to see where the excess motion is originating. That should help you find where and what to tighten. It is possible that the hinges' base plates are not tightly screwed to the right-angle extensions which are attached to the inside of the cabinet.

The hinges are Grass brand (not Blum), which is good quality and the ranges of adjustment are very useful. Unfortunately, all of the adjustment and mounting screws involved can loosen with the vibrations from towing the trailer.

For those who have had the doors fall off, it is possible that the hinge release has not properly clicked into its locked position.

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Wow. Lots of great advice. Thanks all. I may start with zip ties just to hold the dang thing together for the moment. I think the piano hinge idea is intriguing....but lots of great things to investigate. Open to other ideas too - keep Ďem coming. If any 27FB owner has a video of what theyíve done - would love to see that too... a visual would be helpful for sure. Thanks!
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Make sure the round insert into the curved foam door < snip >
Wow, "foam" door? Really?
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Yep. We also use bungee cords to keep doors from popping open while towing.
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I put piano hinges on mine. I could have put the clips on but I found the hinge was restricting access. No blocking access with the piano hinges and never have to worry about them coming off.
Can you post details on the hinges you used and possibly photos of the install? will the curved door closest to the kitchen cabinet drawers still open fully?

These hinges and connections are the ones that continually give me issues - I guess the way my rig resonates over the road focuses all the wiggles on the sink area and they continue to loosen. Was thinking that I needed to go to piano hinges.

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Latest issue of Blue Beret had article on how to adjust these hinges.
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