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Old 06-23-2014, 12:13 PM   #1
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20 Year Old Mice? Wheel covers?

We are finally at the stage when we're taking off the wall panels and redoing the nitty gritty. We removed the plastic tire coverings (by the way, can you buy repacements?) and noticed a lot of super old mouse droppings. We had our pink respirators on, and promptly bought haz mat suits. Is this necessary?
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Old 06-23-2014, 01:03 PM   #2
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Be sure to run the vacuum canister outside the camper.
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Keep the masks on when emptying the vacuum sweeper. Sterilize the inside of the vacuum sweeper when done. A strong disinfectant is needed to wipe down all areas where there is mouse residue.
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Working inside the walls you're going to encounter all kinds of stuff but I wouldn't think you'd need a hazmat suit, coveralls maybe. You should wear a dust mask / respirator. I don't know what was used as insulation in those older models but you wouldn't want to be inhaling it.

How do you know the droppings are 20 years old? Maybe they're just a month

Good luck on your restoration. I'm happy to just have to maintain one of these things.
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Old 06-23-2014, 01:15 PM   #5
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Keep the masks on when emptying the vacuum sweeper.
I had a conversation with an EPA guy several years ago when I was taking up old floor tile in my kitchen. He said it may contain asbestos and to not use a vacuum because it can pass through the filter, go into the air and get breathed in. His advise was to use a broom and gently sweep into a dust pan, then dispose of it.

If it's possible to use a shop vac with a long hose and keep the base unit outside the trailer to avoid a similar situation, that might be best way to keep the airborne dust at a minimum.
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Wear a dust mask and gloves. Shop vac outside of the AS. No reason to go overboard.
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Old 06-24-2014, 01:48 PM   #7
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It's not asbestos you should be worried about. You should be worried about hantavirus. It's spend by rodents in their excrement. I know a guy who died of it.

Seriously.

Google it for more info from the CDC.
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I used a respirator when doing my resto. You really don't want to breath in any of that stuff. I got one like this with replaceable cartridges.

I don't know about replacement interior wheel wells. Mine were very brittle. I patched them up with some sturdy duct tape
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It's not asbestos you should be worried about.
Sorry if I mislead you, my point is that a vacuum cleaner can spread dust, bacteria, etc. because it passes through the vacuum's bag and into the atmosphere. It's better to carefully sweep it, maybe spray it down first to prevent it from going airborne. I didn't mean that there would be asbestos in the trailer.
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Sorry if I mislead you, my point is that a vacuum cleaner can spread dust, bacteria, etc. because it passes through the vacuum's bag and into the atmosphere. It's better to carefully sweep it, maybe spray it down first to prevent it from going airborne. I didn't mean that there would be asbestos in the trailer.
Rich - well clarified! Plus low tech solutions are often the easier way to do the job. Even with HEPA filters stuff will get tracked out on your shoes, leak out an unnoticed pin hole in the hose, etc.

Pick up the big stuff, gently brush down most of the rest, wipe down and use bleach or other disinfectant. I might throw a layer of paint over an affected floor. Booties might be a good idea to keep from tracking the stuff OUT Of the trailer.

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Spray with bleach mixture and mop, don't use a vacuum or broom.
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http://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/survei...-exposure.html

Not to minimize an awful disease, but the way I read this there were 640 recorded cases of this for all time in the whole nation.

That said, I think about this disease when I clean mouse poop, but I will have to admit to not pursuing action apart from really washing my hands a lot. I had a job that for many years meant dealing with other people mouse infested homes and belongings. I didn't have time to take extraordinary measures.

The odds are quite low indeed apart from the western states of contracting this disease.
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