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Old 11-14-2015, 10:32 AM   #1
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1973 Tradewind Reno-Rehab

Hi Folks,

It has been a long and winding road that leads me to this post. As my thoughts drift back to the days of buying my first Airstream, to now, it has been an interesting and mostly agreeable 3-year job. Amusing, perhaps, at the time of purchase I absolutely didn’t want to have to do a full frame-up restoration.

In a nutshell, after 9 months of looking I pounced on the new Craig’s list listing, nice twenty-five footer here in Oregon. Looking every few hours paid off this time. I wasn’t second in line and it was not another piece of junk. I did what I knew at the time to be due diligence. Armed with an awl in one hand and screw driver in the other, I crawled and looked and scrapped and poked and then jumped up and down on the back bumper looking for rear end separation, like the sages wisely advised. But, once home, as time passed, like stones on a New England farm, the floor rot revealed itself. Under the sink real close to the wall, and again, perhaps cleverly disguised, under the Univolt in the back closet and of course, upfront, under the window and again by the front door there was more. The last two were hard spot when my awl unwittingly found cement patches of poorly addressed problems. Be gone to it all.

Luckily, what I Did Not get, by being selective and paying top dollar, was soaking wet insulation, a rotted out frame, or worst of all cavities of dead rodents and their droppings. I feel most fortunate in that. I have not found any, not a single dropping. What I did find was myself involved in a big job. Here is some of what I have been doing after launching into my Land yacht project.


I will start with a few pictures of my Tradewind when I bought it. It was a really nice trailer. I wanted 70’s and personally would not change that. What I did change, as you will see, was the interior to Mahogany.

The picture are the TW the day we took it home. The last picture is a bit of a sneak preview of the project. Just getting started

Tony
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Old 11-15-2015, 08:13 AM   #2
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Many questions

Many questions arise. What should I do first? How far do I want to go? How far do I have to go with this project?

First thing is to see what needed to be done and what I wanted to accomplish. So we took a few trips out and I took some pictures that I called "the way we were" photos. It showed at bedtime how the trailer was arranged, well disarranged. So functionality was high on the list. I don't know if I can find a place for everything to have everything in its place. I think I will take out the almost unused stove/oven and go with a stove top microwave combo

But first deconstruction.

By the way that stove and other interior parts are available. Stove $100

Tony
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Old 11-15-2015, 08:52 AM   #3
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It killed me to be tearing this very nice interior apart because of floor rot below. The bathroom was near perfect, heck the cabinetry was near perfect after all the years.

One thing led to another and I gutted it. Oh boy, a big job ahead. The trailer I bought was very clean and cared for overall. But what lurked behind the cabinets and appliances was dirty walls and isolated dry rot and some bad patches. Little did I know that was about to change. A three year project was about to begin. One thing, I said earlier I was so luck no evidence of rodents anywhere. That is a very good thing for the wiring as well as personal health. I am told it is very rare. Granted my Tradewind was never a "field find"

The last three pics show the galley area which is known to have high rot potential. Suburban furnace to the dump fast as I can. One rat nest I had was the plumbing. That too was about to change. One of the few things I didn't replace with new was the water pump which the previous owner had changed out.

Tony

By the way the bath interior is for sale if anyone needs to make a repair PM me
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Old 11-15-2015, 09:24 AM   #4
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Cut Out The Rot

Time to cut out the floor rot and replace it with fresh new 3/4" Marine plywood. Ahhh but first I coated the edges with penetrating epoxy used in boat building. It took it several inches in on the underside and eventually I floated the trailer side both new and old with several coats of penetrating epoxy used in boat building. Way better than new and over kill. The reason I did it, besides just being me, is to have an excellent surface for the maromelum floor covering that was to come and all the new interior that needed a strong base.

Ahhh but first I have to work on the frame. Grind and sand off rust and apply some Por 15 paint to convert rust and protect. I would learn that there was a lot of Ahhh but first I have to.... before I could accomplish the task at hand.

Tony

One thing note how clean and intact the original insulation was.
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Old 11-15-2015, 09:37 AM   #5
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Ah, yes. Many memories here for us. You are absolutely right about the "now I can....oh but wait, first we need to (fill in the blank). That part never seemed to end! Our trailer wasn't in good condition to start with, so we had no qualms ripping out the interior. The parts we could salvage went to others who could use them. Your trailer looked pretty decent to start with overall. Oh well, now she is what you really wanted! I look forward to further reading!

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Old 11-15-2015, 09:48 AM   #6
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More grinding and preparation of the frame ahhh, in addition I have to replace the hold down plate in the rear. I don't want any rear end separation in the future

The Por 15 was expensive but went far. When I but in the new hold down plate I used some 10mil PVC tape to isolate the different metals. I did the same for the elevator bolts holding the floor to the frame including through the C channel. In some places I reinforced the c channel with 1/8 Aluminum plate.

One other thing, I added another piece of sheet aluminum sandwiching it in back so that it would divert water past the floor of the trailer into the bumper trunk if any got in. The work I have show so far is the worst of it. As a novice it gets better from here if you don't mind a lot of head scratching.

Tony
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Old 11-15-2015, 01:20 PM   #7
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Kay Your restoration work has been an inspiration to me. You have answered question for me that pushed me along.

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Old 11-15-2015, 06:55 PM   #8
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High end floor prep

The following pictures show the floor being prepared for a long life and Marmoleum floor covering. The pictures with circles were small imperfections in the finish. I didn't want these to show through the marmoleum to come. Marmoelum is great in trailers. I used Aeromarine penetrating epoxy for my work. It, along with the marine plywood will really defend against water.

One picture shows using the old rotted plywood as a pattern. Life is a lot easier with patterns. Save all of them. Bulkheads are a good example.

I sanded the old floor to just give a good clean surface through out. I used a lot of elevator bolts and the other type screw (I forget the name). The best price I found by far was Vintage Trailer Supply. They are a good outfit. I spent about 5 grand with them and was not disappointed. They are not always the cheapest on everything but worth going to in my opinion.

They white on the floor is a product call Cabosil mixed in the epoxy to thicken it.

I think having a good floor is very important because it is a part of the support system.

At this stage there is more floor prep but the marmoleum installation is just around the corner. Then it will be on the the new plumbing, grey and blank tanks etc.
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Old 11-15-2015, 07:12 PM   #9
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So now the marmoleum is about to go down. The picture show the two knives I used. Also the one showing my hand is an area I spent a good time fairing but still would of like to got this area better. The gloss areas are spot application of epoxy just trying to get it real nice.

One thing you will notice is that marmoleum is 6' 7" and I will not have any seams because I will figure out my cabinetry to make up the additional width of the trailer. I did not put the M under the cabinets because it is surprisingly heavy. I used high quality paint there.

That brings up a point. I worried about weight all the time. I did not want to increase weight. I think I am doing a pretty good job. Upgrading the Univolt to a modern converter alone saved me close to 30 lbs, doors in bathroom,mirror, the elimination of the stove/oven combo are other weight reducers.

The cabinets are all being built with the highest quality wood and is being selected for strength and weight.

So anyway already seeing a change.
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Old 11-15-2015, 08:04 PM   #10
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I came across a few picture that might be useful to the many that are replacing a floor or part of the floor. This takes some time but is a high end method.
Half lap the pieces of plywood for your new floor along with the plywood reinforcement that is standard. Use some Franklins Titebond 3 on the half lap. Another picture show MAS epoxy being applied on the replacement floor outside trailer, in my shop.

I also showing some more pics of the frame prep and painted with Por 15.

The way I figure it No use putting all the work above the floor and frame with out getting it the best you can.

Tony
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Old 11-16-2015, 08:56 AM   #11
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For now it is on to the new waste system. I want whatever I do to be easily repairable if needed.

A real important improvement is installing a never before gray tank and a new larger black tank. My solution was 22 gal tanks from Ronco, good quality. Now to figure out how to run the plumbing.

What I did was extend the frame down a little with a heavy-duty aluminum structure and set everything up so it can be taken apart in the future with all rubber connectors. This also allows flex as the Tradewind twists and turns down the road.

I did not like the way the dump valves were originally set up. Having to get down on my knee or shoulder to the ground in order to hook up and again later to pull the valve was not for me. So I solved it by extending the bumper trunk by 5 inches and containing the two valves in it. It took some head scratching and a lot of work but I like it. I know some will not like the idea of changing the trailer from original in this way but I donít believe they are sacrosanct. Now my dump valves are deluxe now and I don't have to get on my knee to attach hose or drain.
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Old 11-16-2015, 09:15 AM   #12
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A couple more shots of the waste system. You can see the subframe I built and some of the Ronco tanks and how neatly the ABS drain pipe make it way aft to the drain valves. Everything is simple after you figure it out. This took a lot of effort.

Also see the waste pipes above from the galley. I enlarged the pipe size.

Tony
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Old 11-16-2015, 09:21 AM   #13
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Hi Folks,

Bored yet?

So far what we have done is get the ďbonesĒ of the thing in order. It should serve us for a good long time. The national and local Oregon parks, a like, call us but we will have to wait, a bit longer. Having Long-term horizon brings many good things to us, so we shall work some more and keep the eye on the prize

We all have our different visions that is for sure and there are so many ways to get on the road and drive into the sunset. My proclivities are to respect the best of the old and improve on things where I can. As a woodworker, I was immediately partial to the Mahogany interiors of 1965ís but many others pleased me as well, but Mahogany is the way I went. To help figure out how I was going to design this space I compiled a folder of pictures of the interiors of high end sailboats for inspiration. I also compiled a folder of the best Airstream interiors. Very often, right before bed I would look at these boat pictures and my favorite Airstream interiors to maybe help my subconscious do its thing. Only time will tell if I will hit the mark.

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NO! NOT bored.

a couple of questions:
What is that flange-thingy at the sewer outlet? Looks like it makes for a neat finish, there. Did you have to drill into the steel to get the 3" pipe through, or does it sneek by through your frame-extension structure?

What's the deal with the city water hookup? What is that box? How is the line going to get inside? looks like it runs under the shower...I don't like the original setup, mainly because it makes that pipe and the pressure regulator inaccessible. Haven't decided what I'm going to do about that, just yet.
(just hit the major milestone of installing the new subfloor, yesterday! )
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