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Old 11-16-2015, 09:37 AM   #15
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Now that I have a very solid platform to work on. What is my vision going forward?

We all have our different visions, that is for sure, and there are so many good ways to get on the road and drive our baby into the sunset. My proclivities are to respect the best of the old and improve on things where I can. As a woodworker, I was immediately partial to the Mahogany interiors of 1965ís but many others pleased me as well, but Mahogany is the way am going. To help figure out how I was going to design this space I compiled a folder of pictures of the interiors of high end sailboats for inspiration. I also compiled a folder of what I thought were the best Airstream interiors. Very often, right before bed I would look at these boat pictures and my favorite Airstream interiors to maybe help my subconscious do its thing. Only time will tell if I hit the mark.

Here is a couple of pictures of a nice stack of straight grain ribbon Sapale to choose from. I maybe on my way.

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Old 11-16-2015, 10:03 AM   #16
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Great coverage!! I'm about 2 years behind you. 5 years, if you ask anyone but me.

Your post reminds me to cut some templates for the front and rear curves before I lift the top off. None of my plywood subfloor was worth keeping.
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Old 11-16-2015, 10:13 AM   #17
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Pattern are a real time saver. I use cardboard and a utility knife to rough a shape in, then go on to a lessor plywood and then the real thing.


Hi Chuck

Well congratulations on the floor milestone.

You have good eyes, I too did not like the original water outlet placement, but mainly because it was too close to the waste outlet. I got innovated bought a nice quality inlet from Vintage Trailer Supply and attached a piece of PEX to it, that goes through what you are seeing in the picture. What you are seeing is actually an outdoors electrical box with a piece of conduit. The outlet attached to the box faceplate and the PEX goes through the conduit into the frame cavity. You can see the stubbed out blue PEX. I still have to figure out how to protect it from mud and stuff coming off the trailer tire. Maybe some kind of mud flap? Were the Pex and the waste pipe is has an access door in the belly pan so it can be worked on so no problem there. I used thick aluminum to allow this.

You will not I used a no-hub coupling in a number of places through the waste system for easy repair but mostly to absorb some of the twisting going down the road

Now you pointed out something about the flange that I missed that is a router plate from one of my routers that I drilled out and wrapped up in electrical tape to protect form UVs but I wasnít satisfied. I will take an up dated picture. I used rubber from a large no hub coupler, at the hole, around the #Ē ABS waste pipe and then put the termination fitting on it.


I did not have to drill through the steel frame. I did have to drill through the 3/16 aluminum sub frame.

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Old 11-16-2015, 10:24 AM   #18
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Interesting. I was thinking of possibly using that same inlet, and going in through the side wall of the trailer, just aft of the wheel-well; the water line would come in under the bunk, and could easily tie in to the water lines that run fore/aft from the galley, and could be accessed easily for service.
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Old 11-16-2015, 02:49 PM   #19
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Hi Folks,

What next?

A lot of the time on the this job is spent sitting on an upside down 5 gallon bucket, in the trailer, looking off into the near distance trying to figure out what needs to be done, what could be done, what I wanted to do and what could be done and what was I forgetting to do, and what was the implications of what I was forgetting to do. And oh, was there a better way to do it. This stuff as the over used phrase say "ain’t rocket science" but the difference of a good job or bad can be out of this world,


So what is the look I am after? Well there is a lot of different good one. Best I can tell, I wanted it be warm toned and reminiscent of Airstreams built earlier then the 1973. Wood a must, I love wood. The wife said not too dark and not too nice,”I don’t want to worry about it. I want to use it" So, sure it is an Airstream, but it is not a piano. I have my marching orders!
Makes sense.

I wanted to perhaps get lodgeee look or tropical look or a blend of the two and when all else fails go industrial. One of the good things about the earlier trailers is if something broke you most likely could get the part at the local hardware store So I figured I would do some of that too. Bright curtains, maybe some Pendleton blankets, maybe, but why should I worry about that now there is more work to do. On to figuring out the head I guess.

We did not want a cramped bathroom so we sacrificed a some closet space for a larger shower, where we store things when not in use, mainly in totes while traveling. I elected not to go with seat in the shower. I seem to get by at home just fine without one. If I need one I will use a 5 gal bucket with a seat top on it. I am finding multi use is a good concept in travel trailers.

I made the shower pan out of Okoume BS 1088 marine plywood. It is the gold standard for boat building. Lloyds of London certified. Again penetrating epoxy was used. For the curved shower wall I used cope and bead western red cedar. The same stuff I built my stripper canoe out of. I epoxy coated it and then fiber glassed it. The vanity top is vertical grain cedar epoxy coated and varnished with Captain Spar Varnished. A tradional boat varnish with an amber tone to it. I

Working into the night was inevitable.
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Old 11-16-2015, 03:08 PM   #20
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Continuing with the bathroom.

A cardboard and then a low grade plywood mock up of the front of the vanity and top. Then I made a frame using real joinery to make it strong and take the twisting as it goes down the road. Then I attached the same marine plywood on it and made up some compartments and doors, to come. I Epoxied it all and then I use top of the line paint from Sherwin Williams. The top of the vanity is the Old Growth vertical Western Red cedar epoxy coated and then several coats of varnish.

I will have to round up a good pic of it.

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Old 11-16-2015, 09:34 PM   #21
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Now some major money gets spent on new appliances. Norcold Refrig N841 2-way, Atwood GE9EXT 90071 water heater, Suburban NT Furnaces-NT30SP,
Airstream Power Jack The Jack was a splurge. The old one still worked fine but.... The old one is for sale if anyone needs a original AS jack

The refer is very large The water heater is Electronic ignition so I ran a new line to it. It also has a factory by pass. It is an Exothermal model.


I will very toasty with the new Suburban furnaces. Does take up a lot of space but that is standard.

I need to build platforms for the water heater and furnace so that was next. I again epoxy coated the one for the water heater. You may get the idea I have a thing about dry rot. This trailer will be hard pressed to suffer from it now.

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Old 11-16-2015, 09:43 PM   #22
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Might as well put a new shore power inlet in while I am at it. I have nothing better to do.

I bought a nice looking well made Furrion 30A stainless inlet. It is real nice but at $70.00 one has to flinch a bit.

What I have to cut a hole in the side of my Tradewind? How many chances do I get to get it right?
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Fun Time now. Making up new Sapale bulk heads and then on to cabinets and other woodwork.

The panels were all wood no heavy mdf core. I was very luck to get this stuff. I finished it with Captains Spar Varnish. 3 or 4 coats seem to do the trick. I sanded between coats. I don't usually go for a shinny finish but I think it works. I don't plan to put a high shine on the out side and I just want to be able to say, "my shine is on the inside".

The bulk heads that show in place in one of the pictures is just a test fit and not
fully finished.

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Old 11-17-2015, 10:32 AM   #24
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Now it is time get the Sapale bulk heads varnished and fitted in the Tradewind. Then it will be time to put some of that Sapale lumber, Clear VG lumber to work.

Again with weight being an issue I used clear vertical grain old growth western red cedar where strength was not needed. If I needed more holding power and strength I use Clear Ponderosa Pine. If I needed more holding power or strength I used Sapale. I am fortunate that I have a good supply of this high quality material on hand. For instance the pine I milled off my property. This high quality stuff usually goes to window manufacturers or the like. I was able to gather some very nice Sapale for this trailer too. This is material during the course of building furniture for customers I culled out and saved for myself. The best of the best you might say.

In actuality the Sapale is Ribbon Sapale which is the equivalent of vertical in other species. To this stock I faced with some exceptionally straight grained ribbon stock. I band sawed it into 1/8” pieces and face glued it to a Sapale substrate that was not as showy and that I picked for it being lightweight. Not all boards weigh the same. This was an arduous process but I believe it is worth it. I don’t plan on doing it again.

In the pictures you can see the ripping of face stock on the band saw, glueing of stock to some nice substrate (lots of clamp), and you can see how many boards I had to face glue. It will take most of them to build all the new cabinetry throughout the trailer. We shall see if it all worth it. I think it will be.

oh, I used the turpentine to get a peak at the color of the wood.
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A lot of the time on the this job is spent sitting on an upside down 5 gallon bucket, in the trailer, looking off into the near distance trying to figure out what needs to be done, what could be done, what I wanted to do and what could be done and what was I forgetting to do, and what was the implications of what I was forgetting to do. And oh, was there a better way to do it.

I laughed at this because that described me perfectly - I constantly lamented that my "bucket to work ratio" was about 10:1!

Thanks, Tony, for going through the trouble of posting this thread; everybody's rebuild is unique. What you've done with the bath so far is excellent - I would love to see that shower wall finish.

Thanks,
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Might as well put a new shore power inlet in while I am at it. I have nothing better to do.

I bought a nice looking well made Furrion 30A stainless inlet. It is real nice but at $70.00 one has to flinch a bit.

What I have to cut a hole in the side of my Tradewind? How many chances do I get to get it right?
Tony - Image 357 has a really nice reddish color to it. Is that the sapele bulkhead?

BTW - I want your workshop. And tools.
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yup, a lot of time sitting on the bucket.


The most brutal work is over, so I did some initial planning, figuring and scratching my head, asking questions, putting pencil to paper and saw to wood.

Here are some pictures of the resulting cabinets being built. They will show the exceptional quality of wood throughout. My intention is to have this work last another 50 years and bring enjoyment to more than just the current owners.

I would say that the ribbon mahogany with the multiple coats of Captainís Spar Varnish has a nice glow to it when the sun (or camera flash is on it)

The picture shows some of the cabinet structure. Along the way to a finished cabinet it takes a lot of parts and pieces to produce a light weight and strong unit. A big part of the strength comes for the mortise and loose tenon joinery I used. I am pleased with the results and was glad to use my good wood on it. I don't alway like to let the "good" stuff go for any ole project. But as we all know our Airstreams are special to us.

All said and done (still a ways off) it is to be used, to travel and camp in. My hope is do a little photo shoot when it is at its best and then damn the Torpedoes.

One of the hardest things is to not be able to use the Airstream. This clearly a labor intensive project. I can see why having it done by a pro is so expensive. More than new I have been told many times.

I'll post more cabinet pictures.

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Yes, ericpeltier it is the bulkhead you will see more, larger shot of it.
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