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Old 12-21-2015, 01:36 PM   #1
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1962 22' Safari Renovation for 06/16 Wedding Night

Hello Airforums!

My goal is to get my 1962 22' Airstream Safari presentable and sleepable for my wedding night, June 4, 2016.
I've got the trailer, a heated indoor space for the renovation, and an amazing fiancée who loves the idea, but I'm going to need your help!

So far I've got all the furniture, fixtures, etc. out and saved for future use.

My plan is to get everything behind the walls and below the floor in tip-top shape and then refinish and reinstall the furniture for the wedding. (We're not planning on using it for the honeymoon so it doesn't have to be 100% functional by June 4.)

June 4 priorities:
  1. Frame repaired and painted
  2. Grey and drinking water tanks below floor?
  3. Exterior "water tight"
  4. New insulation
  5. Working trailer lights
  6. Working interior electrical
  7. Composting toilet
  8. New axil and tires
(Probably not going try to have the plumbing and gas fully functional by June 4.)

At a later date I will polish the exterior, redesign the interior, and make her into a fully functional boondocker. I'd like to build in some features now that will make it easier to make changes in the future. Any suggestions?

Here's what I've brainstormed so far:
  1. Full CAD drawings based on what's discovered during the wedding renovation.
  2. Design new floor for easy subfloor access after wedding.
  3. Run electrical conduit throughout.
  4. Redesign belly pan for easy removal without messing with buck rivets.

What do you wish Airstream had built in to make renovations easier? Any ideas on how to achieve 2 & 4 on the list above?

Given the deadline, my biggest question right now is whether to do a frame-off floor repair, or keep the frame on. Large sections of the floor look good but there is definitely rot in the typical areas. It seems to me that frame on/off depends a lot on how much frame repair is required. Is this correct? Is there any way to asses the frame before I take the floor out? (Un)fortunately the belly skin is in good shape so it's not giving me a good look at the frame.

Thanks for your help and support in advance. Looking forward to this!

Bradley

PS - I'm surprised I haven't seen this mentioned in other full renovation threads, so I want to say it here (I only recently discovered this)....
The 9" floor tiles and adhesive most likely contain asbestos! Be careful and take appropriate precautions!
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Old 12-21-2015, 02:14 PM   #2
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Sounds like great plan and a fun way for you guys to work together, yes on asbestos, yes its mentioned here.

What role or function will the trailer be playing in the wedding.
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Old 12-22-2015, 08:57 AM   #3
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the trailer will be on-site for the ceremony and reception. gonna be a great backdrop for pictures! it will also be our home for our wedding night.

looking forward to doing the work!
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Old 12-22-2015, 10:13 AM   #4
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jacking up airstream

i want to get the trailer up higher in the air so i can work on the underside. i have the tongue supported by a 4x4 on jacks. i'm planning to support the rear with a 4x4 running the full width of the trailer. it is positioned just in front of the bumper ends (see pic below).

does this look ok? am i going to damage anything by doing this?
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Old 12-22-2015, 11:45 AM   #5
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we have LIFTOFF!!

ok so i got impatient and went ahead and lifted the trailer. worked great! the trailer is in the air with the wheels on cinder blocks for extra security.

question: did 1962 zolatone have lead in it? i just used a store bought tester and it looks like it does. haven't seen mention of this on the forums though...
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Old 12-22-2015, 11:45 AM   #6
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Needed for the wedding nite? Make sure the frame is re-inforced.
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Old 12-22-2015, 12:19 PM   #7
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Hello Airforums!

Given the deadline, my biggest question right now is whether to do a frame-off floor repair, or keep the frame on. Large sections of the floor look good but there is definitely rot in the typical areas. It seems to me that frame on/off depends a lot on how much frame repair is required. Is this correct? Is there any way to asses the frame before I take the floor out? (Un)fortunately the belly skin is in good shape so it's not giving me a good look at the frame.
I think the shell off/shell on decision has more to do with whether or not the person doing the repairs has the right kind of space to remove the shell and keep it safe. There's also the consideration of the amount of time it takes to remove and replace the shell compared to the advantages of having it off. I opted not to remove the shell when welding the frame and doing a full floor replacement on our '74 Sovereign and never regretted that decision.
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Old 12-22-2015, 12:33 PM   #8
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Wedding backdrop and wedding night sounds fantastic.

So all you need is a clean fresh interior with working steps/stoop to get inside.

A nicely made bed with fresh fluffy linens, two somethings as nightstands, some battery operated candles, a chair or two to sit, a coat rack to put your clothes, I wish I could volunteer to stage your honeyairsuite. All things easily brought from an apartment. Sounds like a fun task for your bridal party to do.

Good luck
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Old 12-22-2015, 12:39 PM   #9
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Great project. We are almost working in parallel. I started gutting a 65 Safari in late October. So far everything is out. Frame has been welded in weak areas, wire brushed and painted with two coats of POR-15. Two gray water tanks and a new black tank have been ordered from Vintage Trailer Supply. Once the tanks go in I plan to start putting the new floor in.

It has been great fun so far and I am learning to push myself out of my comfort zone. Good luck and I am interested in your progress.

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The asbestos in vinyl-asbestos tiles is pretty well bonded. If you don't use power tools that send dust flying you don't have much to worry about. Wear a dust mask. Speaking from industrial experience! Be respectful of the potential danger but asbestos doesn't go around jumping at you the way a poisonous gas does!
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Old 12-22-2015, 01:50 PM   #11
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The asbestos in vinyl-asbestos tiles is pretty well bonded. If you don't use power tools that send dust flying you don't have much to worry about. Wear a dust mask. Speaking from industrial experience! Be respectful of the potential danger but asbestos doesn't go around jumping at you the way a poisonous gas does!
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thanks JCWDCW! i've been wearing a mask and have a good negative pressure system going with a HEPA filter at the exhaust (which blows into my larger studio so i want to be clean). i've also been trying to keep the floor damp whenever i scrape the tiles up.

if i'm going to repair/remove the floor i'm going to need some power tools. do you suggest i remove all tiles in the cutting area before i cut?

any thoughts about the leaded zolatone?
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We bought a $20 heat gun from ACE Hardware to assist with getting the asbestos tiles up. Heat the tiles from the top side as you pull to remove.
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We bought a $20 heat gun from ACE Hardware to assist with getting the asbestos tiles up. Heat the tiles from the top side as you pull to remove.
Great tip! Thanks!
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