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Old 01-04-2016, 09:58 AM   #29
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Yes, it is. I also cut my whitewater teeth on the Chattooga River. I think I want my ashes dumped in the section IV put in when I die. Here is a blast from the past...
OC-2! Nice! what position/side do you prefer? i'm a stern-right guy myself. C-2 on the Ocoee was one of the best times i've had. miss it!

scoboatin!
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Old 01-04-2016, 10:14 AM   #30
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Happy New Year!

i've been away from my project for a week and need to get back to it. currently i'm chewing on a few questions/issues...

is there an easier way to safely remove the asbestos tiles than a heat gun and scraper?

is it better to strip the leaded zolatone off the interior panels before or after i remove them? (if i remove them before stripping i can hire someone to do the stripping while i move forward with the rest of the work, but i don't like the idea of bringing leaded, flaking paint into the rest of my workspace)


and thinking a bit further out...

do i need to replace the belly skins? and if so is there a clever way to avoid having to remove the buck rivets around the floor line? (for example by leaving the "banana skin" section of the belly pan, cutting the rest away and adding a sheet of aluminum that runs the full length of the belly.)

with a shell-off floor replacement, it sounds like one of the biggest challenges is getting everything to line up again as you put it back together. is it possible to replace the floor and belly pan without lifting the whole shell off so as to avoid this issue?


would love to hear if any of you have suggestions about these issues.
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Old 01-04-2016, 12:48 PM   #31
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Happy New Year!

with a shell-off floor replacement, it sounds like one of the biggest challenges is getting everything to line up again as you put it back together. is it possible to replace the floor and belly pan without lifting the whole shell off so as to avoid this issue?


would love to hear if any of you have suggestions about these issues.
This can definitely be done, and many Airstreams have been repaired this way. It just means that you have to replace the floor section by section while you make frame repairs/alterations, paint the frame, etc. I put the frame up on blocks (front, back and at the axles) and made sure it was level before taking anything apart.


Later I removed all of the interior skins. I probably should have done that first but hadn't decided to do that at the time that the photo was taken.

You can see at the ends of the outriggers in front of the axles where I left enough plywood floor in place to keep the shell attached to the frame.
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Old 01-04-2016, 01:27 PM   #32
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This can definitely be done, and many Airstreams have been repaired this way. It just means that you have to replace the floor section by section while you make frame repairs/alterations, paint the frame, etc. I put the frame up on blocks (front, back and at the axles) and made sure it was level before taking anything apart.
interesting. thanks for the tip!

so you removed belly pan first and then floor? or vice versa? how scared should i be of buck riveting to get it all back together?
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Old 01-04-2016, 04:53 PM   #33
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Buck riveting is an easily learned skill AND it's fun / cool.
there's lots of info on this site which you can read - which is helpful - but it's one of those things that, by following some basic fundamentals and a few practice rivets, you'll have it down. You need a compressor, a rivet gun, the right "rivet set" and a bucking bar . . . (oh, and a partner).
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Old 01-04-2016, 10:20 PM   #34
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interesting. thanks for the tip!

so you removed belly pan first and then floor? or vice versa? how scared should i be of buck riveting to get it all back together?
Yes, I removed the belly pan first, then the floor. It goes back together with pop rivets, not bucked rivets. There are special rivets with a larger head available through Vintage Trailer Supply for the belly pan.
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Sorry, yes, the pop rivets are for "blind" holes - like the bottom of the belly pan. The perimeter connection between the Wrap, the Bottom Channel and the Skin (ext. wall panels) needs to be Buck Riveted.
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You should probably get a good pneumatic rivet gun first thing. Even though I didn't take down my internal skins, I wished that I'd gotten a good gun at the start! I kept thinking, "Just a few more rivets..." over and over again!
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You should probably get a good pneumatic rivet gun first thing. Even though I didn't take down my internal skins, I wished that I'd gotten a good gun at the start! I kept thinking, "Just a few more rivets..." over and over again!
what sort of rivet gun helps with removing rivets? i got the tool for my drill, but is there something better?
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well i answered one of my own questions today... the easier way to remove floor tiles is with a heat gun and a oscillating rotary tool with a scraper blade. i'm staying away from cutting blades as i don't want the asbestos to get in the air. it's still a pain but below my pain threshold. gonna remove the tiles only where i plan to cut the floor to get it out, then use a circular saw to make the cuts.

progress!
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9 x 9 floor tile

Based on some of your photos, your 62 is identical to my 64. I have discovered that the floor tile adhesive is water based. A section of the old floor was left exposed to rain and the remains of the tiles just fell off. I am not doing a complete floor replacement, so I am going to try removing the rest with a spray bottle and putty knife.
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what sort of rivet gun helps with removing rivets? i got the tool for my drill, but is there something better?
I drill them first, then use a scratch awl with a broken tip (it's slightly bigger) to punch them out.
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Based on some of your photos, your 62 is identical to my 64. I have discovered that the floor tile adhesive is water based. A section of the old floor was left exposed to rain and the remains of the tiles just fell off. I am not doing a complete floor replacement, so I am going to try removing the rest with a spray bottle and putty knife.
interesting. thanks for the tip. please let me know how this goes.
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been a while but i'm making progress. i have everything out of the interior (appliances, window/skylight frames, antenna crank, etc.) so should be ready to start removing interior panels soon. question: do i need to remove the front and back above-window cabinets, or can i leave them attached to the end caps?

also drilled out all the belly pan buck rivets only to discover additional pop rivets and buck rivets hidden beneath the exterior skin. classic airstream gotcha! guess i'm not dropping the belly pan tonight.

pics and more updates soon...
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