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Old 12-23-2015, 07:14 AM   #15
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I was able to repair the bad sections of floor, and leave the rest. The main frame bolts through the floor plywood- I pried it apart then sliced the bolts with a sawzall. So I slid out the funky section and replaced it and its bolt with new. So far, so good!

I moved my bathroom from the back and replaced it with a queen bed, which I designed as a kind-of hollow spar to further support the rear end.

As you shop for a composting head, don't neglect the new kid on the block, C-Head. I have a Nature's Head, but probably would have gone with a C-Head if I had known about them.

That Zolatone hides a multitude of sins, and the new roll-on Flex makes application very easy. You can contact them about any issues with the older stuff. They still hand-mix their batches, so are quite knowledgeable on their product.

I'm with Hittenstiehl on this: don't rush the interior details, get to know what will be best for you by taking out the trailer with minimal stuff in it. Camp chairs and a banquet table, bed, and a temp kitchen with a camp stove is what you need, and is still far superior to a tent on the ground! Airstreams are meant to move- I feel bad for people that spend years working on an Airstream without ever having taken it out! Having design meetings in camp is really fun, but can take it's toll on beverage supplies, so be sure to stock plenty!

If you're replacing the axle, you might want to do the springs and shocks while you're at it. It is your wedding night, after all!

(somebody had to go there!)
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Old 12-23-2015, 09:01 AM   #16
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I would want to take up tiles where I was going to cut the floor. You already are being more careful than most. Asbestos is a delayed action thing in your lungs and some are way more sensitive or prone to getting a lung disease than others...no way to tell as I understand it! All of us Seniors grew up with lead paint and chewing on crib railings. We still put the first man on the moon, so lead is not such a bogey-man, but as we have learned, prevention is better than dealing with the consequences. Children are most at risk to lead, and lead dust is the only regulated exposure; regulations usually kick in in industry where lead paint is being sand blasted. I believe what you have been doing for Asbestos will do quite adequately for lead paint; You are not likely raising a dust cloud of lead paint, but if you are sanding then be careful and diligent.
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Old 12-23-2015, 09:27 AM   #17
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As you shop for a composting head, don't neglect the new kid on the block, C-Head. I have a Nature's Head, but probably would have gone with a C-Head if I had known about them.
thanks for this tip!

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I'm with Hittenstiehl on this: don't rush the interior details, get to know what will be best for you by taking out the trailer with minimal stuff in it.
interesting ideas about the wedding interior. i guess i've been wanting to have an interior to show off, but that's never the best reason to do anything. i'm thinking it wouldn't be more than a weekend of work to get the old interior back in, with the plan of removing it again after. you guys definitely got me thinking about a more minimal approach for the wedding night though.

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If you're replacing the axle, you might want to do the springs and shocks while you're at it.
currently i've got a worn out torsion axil. was planning to replace with the same. am i going to be happier in the long run with a shock system? i know nothing about how to do that, but i bet there's info on the forums.
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Old 12-23-2015, 09:29 AM   #18
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I would want to take up tiles where I was going to cut the floor. You already are being more careful than most.
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thanks jcw. i'm going to call zolatone and see what they have to say. after seeing the test result i'm thinking of stripping the whole interior. might as well get all the nasties out while i'm at it!
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Old 12-23-2015, 09:31 AM   #19
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I think the shell off/shell on decision has more to do with whether or not the person doing the repairs has the right kind of space to remove the shell and keep it safe. There's also the consideration of the amount of time it takes to remove and replace the shell compared to the advantages of having it off. I opted not to remove the shell when welding the frame and doing a full floor replacement on our '74 Sovereign and never regretted that decision.
thanks for weighing in! i definitely have the space to keep the shell safe, but i'm worried about time. think i'll start working towards a shell-on floor replacement and use the shell-off as a plan B.
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Old 12-23-2015, 09:35 AM   #20
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Great project. We are almost working in parallel. I started gutting a 65 Safari in late October. So far everything is out. Frame has been welded in weak areas, wire brushed and painted with two coats of POR-15. Two gray water tanks and a new black tank have been ordered from Vintage Trailer Supply. Once the tanks go in I plan to start putting the new floor in.
thanks dave! i'll look for your posts and try to follow in your foot steps.

is your user name in reference to the river in NC? beautiful place. growing up i spend my summers canoeing and kayaking all over that area. fond memories!
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just called zolatone. in 1962 their paint did have lead in it.

also, they said it is possible to paint over the old paint after cleaning and priming it with a primer that can accept water based paint.

good to know!
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Old 12-23-2015, 01:40 PM   #22
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As you shop for a composting head, don't neglect the new kid on the block, C-Head. I have a Nature's Head, but probably would have gone with a C-Head if I had known about them.
Suzy, can you say more about your experience with Nature's Head and why you'd choose a C-Head now?

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Old 12-24-2015, 08:30 AM   #23
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Suzy, can you say more about your experience with Nature's Head and why you'd choose a C-Head now?

thanks!
We use the Airstream for weekend outings, and try to use the campground facilities as often as possible. If there is a standard sewer outlet at the campsite, I use that to dump the pee bottle. Hopefully during a stiff breeze! Dumping that bottle in a tiny enclosed stall can be quite grim. I usually up-end it in the toilet and run while holding my breath!

Otherwise, the Nature's Head is a sturdy unit, easy to install. All of these composting toilets require gentlemen to remain seated through the entire performance.

The C-Head is much less money, and uses an old gallon milk jug as the pee bottle. Nature's charges like $60 for a new bottle, which gets yucky after a few months of use. A soaking in bleach solution makes it all better, though.

A clever person could fab up a decent composting toilet- they aren't rocket science under the hood.
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just called zolatone. in 1962 their paint did have lead in it.

also, they said it is possible to paint over the old paint after cleaning and priming it with a primer that can accept water based paint.

good to know!
I used a couple coats of Kilz-II. Worked great! The coverage charts are generous- I wound up with lots extra. Rolling it on is the way to go, and using a chip brush to stipple in the corners. It's a really good product, covers well.
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SuzyHomemakr - What was the good/bad/ulgy of moving the bathroom from back to center? (Is this worth a new thread?)

We've got the entire bathroom out and our trailer didn't come with any tanks, so we're at a point where we could switch it if the Designer (me) gets her butt in gear.
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The C-Head is much less money, and uses an old gallon milk jug as the pee bottle. Nature's charges like $60 for a new bottle, which gets yucky after a few months of use. A soaking in bleach solution makes it all better, though.
thanks SuzyHomemakr! i definitely like the easy replaceable parts on the c-head. i'll plan to put one in my trailer when i get to that point.
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SuzyHomemakr - What was the good/bad/ulgy of moving the bathroom from back to center? (Is this worth a new thread?)

We've got the entire bathroom out and our trailer didn't come with any tanks, so we're at a point where we could switch it if the Designer (me) gets her butt in gear.
For me, it was a no-brainer. We wanted a queen bed, so that was that. Ran some PEX for water, 3/4" vinyl tubing for the drain, and installed the composting head. The most complicated part was adding a weird curved piece of bulkhead so that the window was entirely in the bathroom. Since there are lots of weird curved pieces in my design, it fits right in.
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is your user name in reference to the river in NC? beautiful place. growing up i spend my summers canoeing and kayaking all over that area. fond memories![/QUOTE]

Yes, it is. I also cut my whitewater teeth on the Chattooga River. I think I want my ashes dumped in the section IV put in when I die. Here is a blast from the past...
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